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Originally Posted by gungstar View Post

spyshagg, what card you have and what memory vendor?

Asus R9 290x DirectCU II elpida

perhaps you should mod the voltagetable on another version of 390 bios. The performance from that 390 bios is very similar to stock bios, so you won't gain any benefits from using this rom.
Edited by spyshagg - 2/14/16 at 6:54am
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@spyshagg

Don't know what happened between v1.5 & v1.7 of 390 mod bios perhaps ask @Insan1tyOne.

@kizwan gained ~150 points in 3dmark FS consistently going from 15.7.1 to 16.1.1, his post.

His 390 ROM on a 290 matches my 290X ROM at same clocks with 390 MC + RAM Timings mod.

In this post by Kizwan you can see a 290 ROM with 390 MC + RAM timings mod still getting outpaced by 390 ROM. I saw the same last night, Link:- http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7553890/fs/7553500
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@spyshagg

Don't know what happened between v1.5 & v1.7 of 390 mod bios perhaps ask @Insan1tyOne.

@kizwan gained ~150 points in 3dmark FS consistently going from 15.7.1 to 16.1.1, his post.

His 390 ROM on a 290 matches my 290X ROM at same clocks with 390 MC + RAM Timings mod.

In this post by Kizwan you can see a 290 ROM with 390 MC + RAM timings mod still getting outpaced by 390 ROM. I saw the same last night, Link:- http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/7553890/fs/7553500

I dont think every 390bios performs the same.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/5651514/fs/5653690

Left: v1.5 390 eplida mod bios
Right default 290x bios

800 graphics points difference!


v1.8 390 bios with dcuII voltage table VS default 290x bios = 73 points difference.
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v1.5 and v1.8 are based on same 390 ROM IIRC.

Can you post v1.5 ROM so I can see what is difference vs say new ones smile.gif .
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v1.5 and v1.8 are based on same 390 ROM IIRC.

Can you post v1.5 ROM so I can see what is difference vs say new ones smile.gif .
R9_390X_Stable_v1.5MEM_ELPIDA.zip 99k .zip file

Sure.

This one gives me ~800 graphics points more than the 290x original stock bios at the same clocks
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The 390 bios has always performed better for me and the 290 Tri-x bios, seems to perform a bit lower, even with same timings. Doing some memory testing on the 390 bios right now, got it to pass at 1760 mhz with 1376-1500 timings biggrin.gif
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10772981, i can maybe get it higher, my memory seems to benefit from alot of core voltage when i push it.
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R9_390X_Stable_v1.5MEM_ELPIDA.zip 99k .zip file

Sure.

This one gives me ~800 graphics points more than the 290x original stock bios at the same clocks

That file is identical to 290X_ELPIDA_MOD_V1.7.rom or even v1.8 on performance edits.

Why you'd get more vs stock 290X is:-

a) at 1630MHz for stock 290X bios the RAM would be using 1750MHz strap timings which are horrendously high latency.

b) the 1610MHz you set in the 390X ROM would be using 1625MHz strap timings, if they were stock timings the gap between the 2 ROM compare would still be there but not as exaggerated, it's further exaggerated due to tighter timings in the 390X mod ROM.

c) there is the 390X memory controller timings difference at play.
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v1.8 390 bios with dcuII voltage table VS default 290x bios = 73 points difference.

Here you should see bigger difference IMO, did you reset driver after flashing v1.8 390 bios with dcuII voltage table?
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That file is identical to 290X_ELPIDA_MOD_V1.7.rom or even v1.8 on performance edits.

Why you'd get more vs stock 290X is:-

a) at 1630MHz for stock 290X bios the RAM would be using 1750MHz strap timings which are horrendously high latency.

b) the 1610MHz you set in the 390X ROM would be using 1625MHz strap timings, if they were stock timings the gap between the 2 ROM compare would still be there but not as exaggerated, it's further exaggerated due to tighter timings in the 390X mod ROM.

c) there is the 390X memory controller timings difference at play.
Here you should see bigger difference IMO, did you reset driver after flashing v1.8 390 bios with dcuII voltage table?

Yes.
It varies between runs but the most difference was ~ 200 graphics points. Very far from the 800 of the 1.5 i used.
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Asus R9 290x DirectCU II elpida

perhaps you should mod the voltagetable on another version of 390 bios. The performance from that 390 bios is very similar to stock bios, so you won't gain any benefits from using this rom.
your 290x, but my bios is 390nonX. maybe thats a point of loss pefr. check shaders qty with my bios

gupsterg, what you mean by reset driver? reinstall?
Edited by gungstar - 2/14/16 at 8:38am
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Here is stock untouched:-

Devil 390X
Asus DCUII 390X
Asus Strix 390X

If anyone wanna mod.

390XRoms.zip 300k .zip file

TBH you can change device ID between 290/X & 390/X ROM and they are the same ROM and other difference is locking of extra CUs was by bios, don't know if that feature is still there when "fuse" lock is being used.

Spyshagg test like RAM frequencies for comapre, due to how straps work. As highlighted in previous post, otherwise comparative is not really valid IMO.
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