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@Marty215

No modded ROM database AFAIK.

@madalin3

From what I've experienced on Hawaii cards I've owned, as you raise core you may not reach the same ram clock as without raising core and vice versa. As core clock improves performance more than ram clock that's why the consensus is to go for core 1st and ram 2nd.

Tighter timings will effect what ram clock you achieve but as to how much it limits this aspect depends upon your particular GPU's MC. So you need to say find a sweet spot based on testing for say stock timings and then tighter, compare the data and decide what performs best or you prefer to use.

As to lower temps on the 390X ROM were you setting same VID per DPM/fan profile/testing method same as the other tested ROMs? if so no idea why it's lower temps for you. The Stilt's ROM when I used it or applied the same fSW mod to other ROMs improved my VRM temps. Many have reported lower VRM temps with The Stilt's MLU ROMs also.
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@gupsterg
Thank you very much for all your help!

I finally settled to 1100/1450 at 1.28v and I'm pretty happy with the result. Temperatures are good and the Graphics score is 13.900 which is not too bad.
I noticed that the card whines perceivably more in Unigine Heaven and I tried to do a modded version of the stock 290x bios but since it wouldn't even get to 1375Mhz on memory with Stilt's timings, I let it go.

All in all, I think I got my money's worth out of Hawaii Bios modding.thumb.gif Thanks again as this couldn't have been possible without your help and others such as yourself.
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No worries smile.gif , glad your happy with result smile.gif .

+30mV over stock for that OC is pretty good in my book, I owned 4 hawaii cards in total:-

Sapphire Tri-X 290 STD Edition - reached 1100/1475 with stock ROM which had a +25mV offset in it, at the time I had no info on bios mod and finding out about registers/i2c.

Asus DCUII 290X STD Edition - reached 1070/1340 with stock ROM with +50mV IIRC, again had no info on bios mod, etc at the time. Adding upto +100mV yield no better OC sadsmiley.gif.

Sapphire Vapor-X 290X STD Edition - this needed 1.300V VID DPM 7 to do 1100/1525, this was with all offsets removed from voltage control chip. Out of the box that card showed DPM 7 1.243V and the way the offsets in voltage chip worked out they were adding +25mV to that (1.268V) and it was clocked at 1030/1325.

Sapphire Tri-X 290 OC Edition - This had no offsets in voltage control chip/ROM from out of box, DPM 7 VID 1.250V it went from 1000/1300 to 1140/1495 with just +6.25mV. This was far the best card I'd had biggrin.gif , I was so tempted to keep it but sold it as went to Fiji and knew it would be wasted in my spare PC when another could have fun with it wink.gif . When owning this card I never tested it more as my time was taken up by Fiji cards.

All cards air cooled/stock TIM, etc. OC besides testing with games,etc had been tested by running f@h for upto 48hrs at a times, I even once went nuts and did ~70hrs straight f@h on my Vapor-X 290X.
Edited by gupsterg - 7/11/16 at 2:11pm
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Hi,

finally I had some time to mod another R9 290X (Asus R9 290X DirectCU II OC). What I have done:

1. saved original BIOS
2. used AIDA64 to read out all DPM states
3. updated GOP
4. used HawaiiBiosReader to modify voltages (VDDCI +50mV, DPM7 +37mV) and power limit
5. OC via software to get to know the limits (OCCT with error check, HWiNFO64 for memory errors, Fire Strike and Heaven)
6. used HawaiiBiosReader to modify clocks
7. tested OC (OCCT, HWiNFO, Fire Strike, Heaven)

Now I wanted to tweak the memory timings but I can't find all the straps for Elpida. I can see them for Hynix, but my card uses Elpida...

Modified BIOS: 1080.zip 99k .zip file

Default memory clocks are 1350 MHz, so I also had a look for 58 0F 02 (1350) and BC 0F 02 (1351), but couldn't find them in the memory timings section.

Any ideas? smile.gif


Edit:
I played around with voltages, OC and memory timings a little more and now I am at 1100/1500 with little more voltage.
For 1500 MHz memory clock I need to use default timings, even with timings for 1375 MHz strap HWiNFO will show me a few errors, and my final BIOS has to be perfect regarding stability. So I guess this will be my final BIOS for this card as I don't think I can gain performance with lower memory clock and tighter timings.

But I am still wondering: Where are the timings for 1001 MHz - 1225 MHz (74 B7 01) for Elpida?
Edited by Dionysos808 - 7/12/16 at 7:32am
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Hi Guys.

Posting my last bios. I originally jumped to 1100Mhz by 1350Mhz. I can tell you now, you will damage your cards trying to chase benchmark numbers. I have flashed my card probably hundreds of times bench-marking every idea. Final BIOS. Time to move on.


Final BIOS Run Down:

1050Mhz GPU
1250Mhz RAM (Supporting Hynix/Elpida - Maybe Others)
Power Limit: 300W
Main Feature: Switches From Slight Under-Volt To Slight-Over-Volt. = Cool & Quiet. VRM's Happy

This is a fully customized BIOS that I have worked on for over a year. Out of the box depending on cooling it will run a 28xx/29xx on Heaven/Fire Strike but with slight software overclock will easily do over 3000. I would recommend this to anyone running a 290/390X bios period.

If you want further information on it, PM me. Otherwise download it and take a look. I play Overwatch alot, this runs 950mhz dynamically under-volted which boosts to 1050mhz to an over-volt, stays under 70'c for an average.

Trust me. This is the bios you need. It runs very nicely. It is NOT about benchmark numbers, it's about 'Gaming' without burning out your card.

JBCustom390X1050-1250Final.zip 99k .zip file
post #2996 of 3757
HWiNFO showed me a few memory errors with 1500 MHz after a few hours, so I lowered the clock again. 1375 MHz with timings by The Stilt are error free more than 24 hours now.

@gupsterg
Thank you for that great thread! A perfekt roundup!
post #2997 of 3757
I have a 390x and I'm interested in the memory timings strap editing. There are a couple of points I am unclear about after reading through some of this thread:

Is the correction of the outlier strap in the 390x ROM - (for example changing from 1375MHz, 1731MHz, 1500MHz, to 1375MHz, 1500MHz, 1625MHz, 1750MHz) independent of using Stilt's timings to replace the higher strap timings with lower strap timings?

So if I just changed the straps but did nothing with the actual timings what would happen?



Thanks to everyone that has contributed to this thread, it's really something.
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You can simply copy the timings from a lower strap to the rest of the straps after it.

For example, just did this today with a 390, 1125 strap timings worked pretty well up to 1750MHz strap. Since 1125 timings are tighter than the stock ones, you might gain points for them in benchmarks or a few fps more at same clocks than stock.

It's not really super high but there should be.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11413852

Tip: don't go crazy and put 1000 strap timings into everything. Systematically study where the memory clock produces a black screen using stock timings. Note of that as the memory OC ceiling. i.e 1725 MHz being your max memory OC as 1750 blackscreens when tested.

Copy the timings from 1625 strap into strap 1750 and the rest. And check for the benchmarks scores (I use 3dmark11 due to it's variety of suite) keeping the max memory OC you learned previously. Then try pushing the memory clock 25MHz more. From the example, go to 1750. Does it still black screen?

Now go downn again to 1500 and run the same tests.

You will end up with a timing set that both scores higher and allows for a higher ceiling.

My 390 blackscreens at 1700 using stock timings, but does 1750 using 1425 timings, and finally settled to 1125 strap timings and 1725 max clock.

Weird eh? I cannot explain why too. smile.gif
Edited by mus1mus - 7/15/16 at 7:47am
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I find it weird too. Max memory clock i could get was around 1600-1625 with completly stock bios, right now with 1251-1375MHz timings in all straps, i can bench at 1700 memory clock no problem.
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Glad it's not just me. biggrin.gif

Very different with Hawaii.
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