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Ok will do:)

Next question is voltage values. It is not that simple as with those tdp.. limits right?
I saw some hex stuff and I'm done right away biggrin.gif
Also what about that default offset? Have u had time to check it yet? Hard to remove it?

Sorry for thousands of questions smile.gif
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

The card is 6+1+1 (GPU/RAM.interface/RAM).

They are IR DirectFET, I can make out IR6811 on a image from web.
Marked in red mosfet you'll see 6811 (Click to show)

IR6811 is high side from what I read, AFAIK IR6894 is paired with this, which does low side.

Link:- http://www.irf.com/press-room/press-releases/nr110201

40A is what I'd go with.
TDP / MPDL are always the same set values, what you calculated I'd say is right but would only use if an achievable OC is dropping clocks.

TDC is always lower than TDP/MPDL , you now know phases and spec of mosfet.

I'd only adjust if card dropping clocks, I wouldn't ramp it to the MAX.
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

The card is 6+1+1 (GPU/RAM.interface/RAM).

They are IR DirectFET, I can make out IR6811 on a image from web.
Marked in red mosfet you'll see 6811 (Click to show)

IR6811 is high side from what I read, AFAIK IR6894 is paired with this, which does low side.

Link:- http://www.irf.com/press-room/press-releases/nr110201

40A is what I'd go with.
TDP / MPDL are always the same set values, what you calculated I'd say is right but would only use if an achievable OC is dropping clocks.

TDC is always lower than TDP/MPDL , you now know phases and spec of mosfet.

I'd only adjust if card dropping clocks, I wouldn't ramp it to the MAX.
post #373 of 3794
Thanks for the VRM specs!!Now my doubt is:40A for phase,so if my card have 8 phase 40X8=320AMP?arrowheadsmiley.png My TDC in bios is 250A,if i upper this value to 260 the card begin drop clock...
the conclusion that i've done,is that raise TDC is not a good idea....
Edited by EMYHC - 10/16/15 at 8:34am
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It prolly should be 6x40A so 240A max.
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Originally Posted by fat4l View Post

It prolly should be 6x40A so 240A max.

Yes I would agree with that.
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Next question is voltage values. It is not that simple as with those tdp.. limits right?
I saw some hex stuff and I'm done right away biggrin.gif

As you're using HawaiiReader check out info in post 1, heading GPU Voltage adjustment and then select Setting / editing GPU core voltages in the 6 tables, second little paragraph explains how to set voltage and ref image with markings wink.gif.

Heading GPU Voltage adjustment and then select SVI 2 Compliant Voltages has the voltages which can be entered wink.gif .
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Also what about that default offset? Have u had time to check it yet? Hard to remove it?

You have offset in rom not voltage chip wink.gif , easy to remove or set to whatever you want, info in post 1 wink.gif .



I have attached tables for your rom.

Ares3Tables.zip 5k .zip file

If you don't feel comfortable editing ROM offset. I will do and upload, what would you like it set as?
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Sorry for thousands of questions smile.gif

No problem smile.gif .
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ahaaaaa. I'm starting to understand it now.

So basically, "powerplay table", gpu freq table, dmp0 voltage is 968 so 0.968V(but its really 0.96875V right?) and this is not variable right? This must be the same for all tables in "limit tables" for dmp0, right ?
Now DMP7 has voltage set as "65288" which is EVV so it's variable and it depends on Asic quality(default clocks, and maybe something else right?).
So if I want DMP7 to be around 1.1V, then it has to be 0.96875V + 0.00625 * 21 = 1.1V and this has to be set for all DMP7 in all tables right ?
So what I need to do is to change 65288 value to 1.1and thats it? Am I doing it the right way?

But if 0.968v is set as 968, how 1.1v is set ? as 1.1?

Is there any limits for max voltage bios-wise?

Ok I g2g now, I'll respond later if I have any more questions smile.gif



And yes if you can edit that offset and set it to 0 for me it would be cool cuz I don;t feel confident playing around hex values at all(for now) smile.gif
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So basically, "powerplay table", gpu freq table, dmp0 voltage is 968 so 0.968V(but its really 0.96875V right?) and this is not variable right? This must be the same for all tables in "limit tables" for dmp0, right ?

Yes, Yes, Yes.
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Now DMP7 has voltage set as "65288" which is EVV so it's variable and it depends on Asic quality(default clocks, and maybe something else right?).

Yes.
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Originally Posted by fat4l View Post

So if I want DMP7 to be around 1.1V, then it has to be 0.96875V + 0.00625 * 21 = 1.1V and this has to be set for all DMP7 in all tables right ?

As you'd be using HawaiiReader 1.1v = 1.10000v , instructions in the relevant section in post 1 say:-
Quote:
To use all you do is drop the decimal point and trim last 2 digits and enter into HawaiiReader.


1.10000v (drop decimal point) = 110000 (then trim last two digits) = 1100 (to be entered)

And yes each DPM per table must be same.
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Is there any limits for max voltage bios-wise?

I think you can set 1.55v from what I recall reading regarding a marketing slide on "PowerTune" and the voltage control chip. How safe it is to use that voltage? no idea.
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And yes if you can edit that offset and set it to 0 for me it would be cool cuz I don;t feel confident playing around hex values at all(for now) smile.gif

Here is zero'd offset roms.

AsusAres3Bios0MV.zip 199k .zip file
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Thanks for all the help smile.gif

Btw is hawaii reader safe to use?
Like u said in the first post, it reads some stuff on my card incorrectly(max clocks for example). Does it matter when altering the bios?

I also saw that for different dmp1-7 must be some % of dmp7 right?

I will check the 0mV offset bios when I get home smile.gif


Edit::/
I forgot to ask.my area has only one bios. If something goes wrong will I be able to flash the original bios back ? I can use igp from 4790k if needed.
Edited by fat4l - 10/16/15 at 5:05pm
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No problem on help smile.gif .

MAX clocks is being read incorrectly, this refers to CCC MAX GPU / RAM clocks (1500/2000), do not alter info in those boxes (marked in red on image below) and you'll be fine (safe) smile.gif .

Just in case you ask how you change GPU clock I have marked in green, RAM is marked as blue on image.
HawaiiReader (Click to show)
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I also saw that for different dmp1-7 must be some % of dmp7 right?

Bios will work if you don't edit them and you will reach new clock you set, only thing is when say GPU loading is lower / usage and card select a lower DPM state you will be at lower frequency / bigger drop down.

Why factory OC bioses have a % of DPM 7 in GPU DPMs 2-6 is so when one of those cards is using a lower DPM it gives more performance than a ref clocked card.

You may have read Berkley's posts regarding setting RAM DPM 1 & 2 same as DPM 0 so when card used at windows desktop it does not ramp up clocks.
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Edit::/
I forgot to ask.my area has only one bios. If something goes wrong will I be able to flash the original bios back ? I can use igp from 4790k if needed.

Yes you should be fine. If I was in your shoes before doing any flashing I'd test using IGP.
Some ATiFlash commands (Click to show)
Boot off DOS USB and try:-

i) atiflash - ai 0
ii) atiflash -ai 1

You should see differing bios P/N as MASTER / SLAVE have differing ones.

To backup rom in DOS:-

i) atiflash -s 0 [rom name]
ii) atiflash -s 1 [rom name]

To flash in DOS you'd be using:-

i) atiflash -p 0 [rom name]
ii) atiflash -p 1 [rom name]

Note: you may have seen -f after rom name when flashing, this switch forces a flash.
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Just in case you ask how you change GPU clock I have marked in green, RAM is marked as blue on image.
HawaiiReader (Click to show)
Bios will work if you don't edit them and you will reach new clock you set, only thing is when say GPU loading is lower / usage and card select a lower DPM state you will be at lower frequency / bigger drop down.

Why factory OC bioses have a % of DPM 7 in GPU DPMs 2-6 is so when one of those cards is using a lower DPM it gives more performance than a ref clocked card.
In the GPU freq table, can I do the same(similar) for all DMPs like you did here ?


If I'm using these % values from this table should they be the same for all voltages for all DPMs or what % values should I use ?
Like if DPM7 = 1.4v then DPM6=1.4 * 0.977=1.3678 but the closes value is 1.36875 so 1.368v to be put in the table right ?

Or how did u do it ?

Or do u advice me to change only DPM7 freq and voltages ?

What is GPU clock 2 and mem clock 2?
GPU and mem clock 1 is 2D clock as I understand it.


Also a noob question now....
What is UEFI bios good for ? I mean whats the benefit or difference vs non-uefi one?

blushsmiley.gif




Edit://
Reading Berkeley's posts now smile.gif


edit 2://
Ok getting even more confused biggrin.gif
I will wait with adjusting clocks for now.
I'm also interested in this:
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Originally Posted by fyzzz View Post

I have recently had some fun with the 390 bios. I put in the 1126-1250 timings into my 1501-1625 strap and played around with some voltages. Here is the Hawaii bios reader settings: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Running perfectly stable and fine. Performance then? you may ask. Well i got shocked and surprised by the performance increase i got. I got 10! points less in valley with 1175/1625 modded 390 bios vs 1260/1625 stock 290 bios...
Here is also a firestrike link: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8571380?. This bios also outperforms stock 390 bios at 1200/1700...time to increase the frequencies some more and have some fun biggrin.gif.
.

Will I be able to use the same timings from that bios to get increased performance?

Also voltages in gpu and mem Freq table have to be the same for the same DPMs ?
As for example here:

Edited by fat4l - 10/17/15 at 12:29pm
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