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FF7 is my favorite game of all time, but I'm not against them changing some things. I don't expect to like the remake as much as I like the original, and that's fine, because the original is here me as well as everyone else if they desire. The PC version looks pretty good already.... so if they want to make a extremely fresh take on FF7, I'm okay with that, for a generation of people who might not be willing to give the FF7 we fell in love with a chance.

i am waiting for the inevitable pay 29.99 and unlock all materia.

or 1.99 to master a materia.

remakes are generally never as good as the original.
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i am waiting for the inevitable pay 29.99 and unlock all materia.

or 1.99 to master a materia.

remakes are generally never as good as the original.

The Ratchet and Clank remake (or reimagining) is looking to be better than the original.
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Agreed how games have no longevity nowadays, and how many are rehashes. I mean, does anyone play Modern Warfare 2 anymore? It seems like every 6 months I realize there's another CoD game. The sad thing is they regularly break sales records and sell millions or copies. Why? They haven't really changed at all in ten years. How many times can you shoot somebody in the head before it gets old? If the only game you play or are good at is CoD, I'm sorry, don't call yourself a gamer.

I also agree with the sentiment that graphics have improved but gameplay hasn't. If anything, I think gameplay has actually regressed. It's sad to me when The Witcher 3 gets a 10/10 from Gamespot but something truly innovative and fresh like Yoshi's Wooly World on Wii U gets a 6/10. The Withcer 3 is 90% tech demo and 10% game. And the game part isn't even that good, the combat sucks.

I am sincerely scared as hell for the FF7 remake. They damn well better make it identical to the original with just upgraded graphics or I'll write off Final Fantasy forever. (The last one I finished and enjoyed was 9 in 2000.)

Longevity is over-rated. No game is going to have real longevity, on a pc, or console. The reason why is ever changing hardware. Games that are old have compatibility issues. Realistically the life-span for any new game is under 10 years.

There is also gaming fad, which basically boils down to COD and other similar titles. Everyone has to have the newest one, as if it's some type of social status achievement or something. Usually these titles are prone to stagnation due to fact they already have fan bases who DON'T wish to see changes, and if they do make changes they could possibly "Hate" the changes. In other words if we grossed 200 million from this game, we want to gross 205 million from the sequel so they will make it identical with a few added features, or in COD's case new maps :-D I really wish this fad would die.
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COD MW3 on the Xbox 360. I still play several times a week.
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Longevity is over-rated. No game is going to have real longevity, on a pc, or console. The reason why is ever changing hardware. Games that are old have compatibility issues. Realistically the life-span for any new game is under 10 years.

5 years is not "longevity" for you? I measure by hours anyway, since hours played can actually be recorded. A game with great longevity avoids being repetitive, has multiple playstyles, and offers a branching plot that changes significantly depending on player choice/interaction (if it's a story driven game that is). Any game that provides me with over 100 hours of play time is a game with good longevity or lasting appeal I think.
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COD MW3 on the Xbox 360. I still play several times a week.

As if 2011 is old. I'm not speaking of you but I hate it when people are turned off by a game just because its release date is 2011 or god forbid 2010 or even older. Hell, Crysis from 2007 still looks better than plenty of 2015 games, and a number of games from back then have equal or greater fluidity than plenty of 2015 games.
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5 years is not "longevity" for you? I measure by hours anyway, since hours played can actually be recorded. A game with great longevity avoids being repetitive, has multiple playstyles, and offers a branching plot that changes significantly depending on player choice/interaction (if it's a story driven game that is). Any game that provides me with over 100 hours of play time is a game with good longevity or lasting appeal I think.
As if 2011 is old. I'm not speaking of you but I hate it when people are turned off by a game just because its release date is 2011 or god forbid 2010 or even older. Hell, Crysis from 2007 still looks better than plenty of 2015 games, and a number of games from back then have equal or greater fluidity than plenty of 2015 games.

This.
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5 years is not "longevity" for you? I measure by hours anyway, since hours played can actually be recorded. A game with great longevity avoids being repetitive, has multiple playstyles, and offers a branching plot that changes significantly depending on player choice/interaction (if it's a story driven game that is). Any game that provides me with over 100 hours of play time is a game with good longevity or lasting appeal I think.

Well I was more speaking on compatiblity not actual game play time. Ie games from 10 years ago usually have problems operating on windows 7+ environments. Not to mention some of the really old games were programed in a manner which cpu speed mattered, ie the faster the cpu the faster or better the AI would be, they are nearly impossible to play on modern systems. So there becomes a point where you actually need a retro gaming machine to play these titles properly. When you reach that point, there are very few people in the world who would go through the trouble building a retro machine and playing the game, ie the game is now dead.

I like to think hours played in a game, is an indicator of enjoyment, or well addiction biggrin.gif . I have nearly 5200 hours in Dota 2 yes, crazy. So longevity in playing time matters, to make the game have a player base which will keep it going to the point where you need a retro machine to keep playing it :-)
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Well I was more speaking on compatiblity not actual game play time. Ie games from 10 years ago usually have problems operating on windows 7+ environments. Not to mention some of the really old games were programed in a manner which cpu speed mattered, ie the faster the cpu the faster or better the AI would be, they are nearly impossible to play on modern systems. So there becomes a point where you actually need a retro gaming machine to play these titles properly. When you reach that point, there are very few people in the world who would go through the trouble building a retro machine and playing the game, ie the game is now dead.

I like to think hours played in a game, is an indicator of enjoyment, or well addiction biggrin.gif . I have nearly 5200 hours in Dota 2 yes, crazy. So longevity in playing time matters, to make the game have a player base which will keep it going to the point where you need a retro machine to keep playing it :-)

You're right about that, and it is incredibly annoying. There are so many good games from 10+ years ago that are unstable on Windows 7, much less Windows 10. It's more of a problem when you haven't played an old game and want to play it for the first time. Those who did play the old game in question multiple times won't need to play it 10+ years later.
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Longevity is over-rated. No game is going to have real longevity, on a pc, or console. The reason why is ever changing hardware. Games that are old have compatibility issues. Realistically the life-span for any new game is under 10 years.

I'm talking about a game being playable after so many years, something you can still go back to way past its time. CoD, Halo and so on don't have this.

Sit a modern day, 5 year old kid down with a Nintendo NES and Super Mario Bros. and see what happens.

In 30 years nobody is going to be playing Modern Warfare 2. People will still be playing Super Mario Bros.

That's all.
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I'm talking about a game being playable after so many years, something you can still go back to way past its time. CoD, Halo and so on don't have this.

Sit a modern day, 5 year old kid down with a Nintendo NES and Super Mario Bros. and see what happens.

In 30 years nobody is going to be playing Modern Warfare 2. People will still be playing Super Mario Bros.

That's all.
I agree to a point but children and all forms of media are so interconnected these days...they get exposed to the new breed of games and good luck getting them to jump on turtles and slide down flag poles...in my day (oh boy) those games were cutting edge so they were special I'm not saying kids won't love them until they find newer games but even if you try and keep them from the above their age games and the like if they go to public schools they will probably come home wanting the newest game system or fad of the time...sadly it's a different time than it was when we grew up on those games...but I do agree with the fact that you can still enjoy those games years later...but there are games I couldn't put down when I was a kid and now I can't see why I ever liked them?
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