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Thank you for your comment I appreciate your comment. What I would like to ask is if you haven't noticed without the PCIe slot, your card does nothing at all... It sits there communicationless and can't pull not even 0.01 frames per second... Did you ever think that maybe the data that becomes stored in the video memory comes from the PCIe slot just maybe? The PCIe slot has a limit of bandwidth to read and write to video ram... Unless I'm a fool and PCIe has 1 Billion Tera Bytes per second bandwidth and I don't know what I'm talking about?

The video memory clock might just have faster performance with higher clocks sure... Though that data must be first stored in video memory... Which comes from... Thin Air possibly? thumb.gif
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@stephenn82: I am using a completely software based solution...no Bios tweaking yet. I am not certain, but fairly confident it does nearly the same thing chris82's bios tweak will do. MSI afterburner is a great tool but it has been a bit buggy since wattman came out. I have managed to get it to work after using an aggressive driver remover called DDU, and doing a clean install of both Relive drivers and Afterburner. Just stay out of wattman if you use AB because they dont play nice with each other.

hopefully chris89 will verify if his Bios tweak actually does anything different than what my software tweak is doing soon. I am curios. Either way you can try what I have done with less risk as a gfx card without duel Bios that has the bios go bad is usually bricked.

I have done that, MULTIPLE times...AB no longer works on ANY driver past 16.11.5 for me. I dont even open Wattman. I delete all the corresponding AMD folders as well, DDU doesnt always get them. Dont know what else to do? Mabye delete every MSI registry as well just to be safe?

I am trying his bios today he made for me. Not as aggressive as I am used to, but the way chris89 explained it, it will be better than the 1150/1675 i was running on LESS POWER. Getting ready to load this shin dig up!
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and still VRAM-Speed has nothing to do with the PCI-Speed.. dont knoe why you try to ignor that
I believe that any data that goes to that card goes through the PCI-e lanes, right? Just like the RAM on motherboard, it has to connect to the CPU. If the CPU cant physically support ddr3200, it wont run it without some intervention from an onboard chip. (which is STILL limited to CPU speed to feed the northbridge)

Compare it to this. Say you have a 600hp engine sitting in a three speed VW Rabbit. Sure, its fast...but with those ****ty stock gears, you can only go so fast. If you crank up to say, a 6 speed close ratio with steep 5 and 6 gears, you will be going SOOOO much faster in the top end.
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Pre flash timespy, no AB, no Wattman, plain jane run - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19169477?
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Pre flash timespy, no AB, no Wattman, plain jane run - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19169477?

heres mine to compare, havent done it with my 1700x though lol.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1532151/spy/1305103
    
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heres mine to compare, havent done it with my 1700x though lol.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1532151/spy/1305103

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Pre flash timespy, no AB, no Wattman, plain jane run - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19169477?

and POST flash. slight improvement over stock. I did notice the side window of my Air 740 wasnt hot like usual when loaded up, popped open case to put hand near where the blower vents, it was slightly warm, not the typical sauna that could roast marshmallows on stock speeds.

GREAT WORK!!! @chris89

quick comparo of results:
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1532297/spy/1532151
going to load 17.4.1 and see if any more improvement can be had.
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heres mine to compare, havent done it with my 1700x though lol.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1532151/spy/1305103

comparo of post flash with yours. i have 1080/1250 for clocks. you SLIGHTLY edge mine out. What are your clocks?
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1532297/spy/1305103#

they say hyperthreading has NO results over not HT cpu's. Thats a lie. I blew yours out of the water by almost 50% more. Cant wait to see what that AMD will do! Im glad they finally got their act together! Last AMD i owned was a 5000+ Black Edition Brisbane core. was a little beast back in 2007-2008!
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comparo of post flash with yours. i have 1080/1250 for clocks. you SLIGHTLY edge mine out. What are your clocks?
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1532297/spy/1305103#

they say hyperthreading has NO results over not HT cpu's. Thats a lie. I blew yours out of the water by almost 50% more. Cant wait to see what that AMD will do! Im glad they finally got their act together! Last AMD i owned was a 5000+ Black Edition Brisbane core. was a little beast back in 2007-2008!

I did a cpu only test I'm over 7000 i think. I didn't even do it OCed or ram OCed i dont think but will do.

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1313147

My clocks on the timespy were 1040/1500. I can do 1100/1600 on stock voltages.
    
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[quote name="bluej511" url="/t/1561704/official-amd-r9-390-390x-owners-club/10950#post_26000322"
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1313147

My clocks on the timespy were 1040/1500. I can do 1100/1600 on stock voltages.[/quote]
You running a modded bios from Chris89? If no, what are your GPU max temps, if you dont mind me asking?
I just loaded up the new 17.4.1 drivers to see if any more improvements can be made over the modded bios.
I will set GPU-Z to record max GPU temp, and post it here. I was definitely in the 70's without AB fan profile on stock 16.11.5
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[quote name="bluej511" url="/t/1561704/official-amd-r9-390-390x-owners-club/10950#post_26000322"
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1313147

My clocks on the timespy were 1040/1500. I can do 1100/1600 on stock voltages.
You running a modded bios from Chris89? If no, what are your GPU max temps, if you dont mind me asking?
I just loaded up the new 17.4.1 drivers to see if any more improvements can be made over the modded bios.
I will set GPU-Z to record max GPU temp, and post it here. I was definitely in the 70's without AB fan profile on stock 16.11.5[/quote]

Stock BIOS, gpu max temp is like 39°C lol
    
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