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Originally Posted by chris89 View Post

rafdx, stock bios i presume?
if his is stock, and mine is modded, ***? thats a better score than I have netted thus far lol

oh wait, Answered it here
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Here are all 4 TimeSpy runs. Now that I am more familiar with the ATI Boot thingie, I can do this at will. Thanks for your patience

To recap: I have an R9 390 with the H55/Kraken G10 mod with 2 noctura 80mm fans (one replacing the kraken, one over the cooler/ forward vram). My overclock is 1170MHz Core and 1700MHz Memory (6800) with +65mV. How I judged this OC to be stable/ enough juice is I saw no artifacts in heaven benchmark. I saw zero artifacts in any of the TimeSpy runs. Hopefully this is the data you wanted.

Rom1; TS Score 4388 (GPU 4198, Max Temp 64C) http://i.imgur.com/KPo6yTe.png

Rom2; TS Score 4473 (GPU 4298, Max Temp 71C) http://i.imgur.com/gHfQGV5.png

Rom3; TS Score 4556 (GPU 4385, Max Temp 73C) http://i.imgur.com/Kc2Ttjv.png

Base w/OC ; TS Score 4581 (GPU 4415, Max Temp 51C) http://imgur.com/RksDbz5

Edited by stephenn82 - 4/14/17 at 12:53pm
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We don't have any idea if he ever modded the bios or anything haha

By the way ... Set 4:2:2 color AMD Settings "Preferences" "More Settings" + 8bpc color format (Heck set windows to 16 bit color as well...) & Windows High Performance + tesselation disabled and run again on whatever BIOS your running? 1207Mhz?!? biggrin.gif
Edited by chris89 - 4/14/17 at 12:55pm
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We don't have any idea if he ever modded the bios or anything haha

By the way ... Set 4:2:2 color AMD Settings "Preferences" "More Settings" + 8bpc color format (Heck set windows to 16 bit color as well...) & Windows High Performance + tesselation disabled and run again on whatever BIOS your running? 1207Mhz?!? biggrin.gif
It looks like he has a sweet hardware mod, an h55 cooler hooked to water block to deal with all that heat throwing at the stock bios. If he put a custom bios on htere, he may drop his temps down a lot more.

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Here are all 4 TimeSpy runs. Now that I am more familiar with the ATI Boot thingie, I can do this at will. Thanks for your patience

To recap: I have an R9 390 with the H55/Kraken G10 mod with 2 noctura 80mm fans (one replacing the kraken, one over the cooler/ forward vram). My overclock is 1170MHz Core and 1700MHz Memory (6800) with +65mV. How I judged this OC to be stable/ enough juice is I saw no artifacts in heaven benchmark. I saw zero artifacts in any of the TimeSpy runs. Hopefully this is the data you wanted.

Rom1; TS Score 4388 (GPU 4198, Max Temp 64C) http://i.imgur.com/KPo6yTe.png

Rom2; TS Score 4473 (GPU 4298, Max Temp 71C) http://i.imgur.com/gHfQGV5.png

Rom3; TS Score 4556 (GPU 4385, Max Temp 73C) http://i.imgur.com/Kc2Ttjv.png

Base w/OC ; TS Score 4581 (GPU 4415, Max Temp 51C) http://imgur.com/RksDbz5
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We don't have any idea if he ever modded the bios or anything haha

By the way ... Set 4:2:2 color "More Settings" & Windows High Performance + tesselation disabled and run again on whatever BIOS your running? 1207Mhz?!? biggrin.gif

the 1207 1536 hard locked my card, it went black, I had to fiddle with my onboard to get my pc to work, reflash the 1133/1270. I will check out why it failed tomorrow. at work again...this three day shift cycle sucks
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Its either way too much voltage, like you said, or something else. I iwll check it out before I go to Cali hopefully soon.
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Cool dude. your on air right? Gonna need a beast fan profile to keep ASIC under control.. it's a fail safe on my BIOS 88C ASIC so no matter what card will still work.
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Cool dude. your on air right? Gonna need a beast fan profile to keep ASIC under control.. it's a fail safe on my BIOS 88C ASIC so no matter what card will still work.
yeah, still on the stock MSI Frozer V cooler. It works pretty good for a stocker. Cool, quiet even up to 65%, then it starts making some noises lol.

I will flash the 1207 bios with the 1250 ram speed to see if the card will even work...then figure out boosting the ram speed up a little later.
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quick questtion

The Power Slider from AB to boost the power by a percentage....how does that work with the stock bios? How does it translate to a custom BIOS?

Can someone set anything in Wattman or with AB on top of what was built into the BIOS? What implications are created when doing so?

I havent messed with anything, dont want to fry my card by double boosting power if its alrady kicked up a noth into the bios.
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Stock power limit is about 200 watts, my bios opens it up to literally 57,599 watts wink.gif Which gives all the headroom for Zero Throttling and Max Performance.

By dragging slide to +50.... Turning 200 into 250... No biggie it's not permanent or anything. Just a software override that barely helps. These cards need power for the big end clocks like my custom bios mods.

PS - You can fry the card on Stock BIOS... You can't on my BIOS... ie Max ASIC Shutdown 88C which is below the damage limit. By stock I believe is nearly 100C or greater... Well into the damage zone. That's why we see so many of these that faulted out... Easy fix ... 400F hot air blower and Flux on all Cap solder points and the mPGA main Core Diode... 10 minutes or less and done good to go.

PS #2 - Black Screen equals me setting ASIC too low and prevents "Damage" which I should leave at 88C so it won't black screen on ya on the Big End. So that's the issue... LMK when you want a new bios to fix this.

Stephenn82_1200Mhz_1388mv_1270Mhz_888mv_88C_ASIC.zip 99k .zip file
Edited by chris89 - 4/14/17 at 1:41pm
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Stock power limit is about 200 watts, my bios opens it up to literally 57,599 watts wink.gif Which gives all the headroom for Zero Throttling and Max Performance.

By dragging slide to +50.... Turning 200 into 250... No biggie it's not permanent or anything. Just a software override that barely helps. These cards need power for the big end clocks like my custom bios mods.

PS - You can fry the card on Stock BIOS... You can't on my BIOS... ie Max ASIC Shutdown 88C which is below the damage limit. By stock I believe is nearly 100C or greater... Well into the damage zone. That's why we see so many of these that faulted out... Easy fix ... 400F hot air blower and Flux on all Cap solder points and the mPGA main Core Diode... 10 minutes or less and done good to go.

PS #2 - Black Screen equals me setting ASIC too low and prevents "Damage" which I should leave at 88C so it won't black screen on ya on the Big End. So that's the issue... LMK when you want a new bios to fix this.

Stephenn82_1200Mhz_1388mv_1270Mhz_888mv_88C_ASIC.zip 99k .zip file

Thanks for the BIOS and the info. Very helpful

I havent really looked around on my own to find it previously, but started to take an interest in the matter. Its easier to be coached along the way instead of finding it out in a book or reading all the time.

Before when I was all stock, I went into the AB "unlocked settings" in my card, and I remember it being set to 94c. That may still be a little steep, but 88c shoul dbe enough. The thing is, when my GPU would go black screen was just after booting up fully, i would start to login, and black screen would happen. Not a lot of throttling going on at idle right?


yeah, flow the solder joints to make a better connection...Happened witht he PS3's and quite a bit of the first few generations of the XBOX 360's. I have a PS4 to fix for my wife's friend/family. It may be just loose solder that isnt holding proper connections. That would be easy fix.
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Right on see at 1400mv+ and 1200mhz we are in that narrow window of possibility thermally speaking. Which is why a precisely tuned fan profile is required since ASIC on these cards rise fast and quick and are animals. So a minimum fan profile setting is ideal at higher speeds with lower temperature starting point at higher fan rpm. Than would seem "Necessary" yet that ASIC is floating in the air without you knowing and the temperature is controlled by the fan. We can't know exactly for sure how hot the ASIC is but we can control it with manipulating the fan profile. I have thoroughly tested this to get 1250mhz possible on the reference 390x using the reference beefier 290x heatsink/ blower as its 25C cooler than the 390X assembly with it's tiny RX 480 sized Core Heatsink.

The reference blower is the best Air Cooler, nothing else comes anywhere near close to it's thermal performance capabilities. The gust that comes off the back of my modded reference 290X & 390X can be felt from 10-15 feet away... I have it unrestricted with the DVI port removed so 110% of all that crazy amount of heat is allowed to escape most effortlessly.
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