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My MSI core clocks great, the memory not so much. My XFX was the opposite. I wouldn't worry about it.

Well, I can't say my MSI's core is a great overclocker. The max it's hit while being stable is 1185MHz at +100mV. Anything higher and I get artifacting. I think it has something to do with temperatures though, so I will give it a try again once I grow enough balls to change my card's TIM. tongue.gif

Thing is, I'm wondering whether overclocking the core affects the memory and vice versa. It seems a bit more... Sensitive when both are higher. It certainly crashes quicker if it's going to crash. I'll keep abusing it in the next few days and see what I can come up with.

For now, I seem to have found a stable-ish, usable-ish overclock of 1165/1725MHz at +75/+60mV. Now normally I'm able to do 1170MHz with +75mV, but I tried running Heaven at 1170/1725 and it crashed. At 1165/1725 it went through half an hour of Valley though. So there's that. Alas, +60mV AUX does seem quite high... I'm really struggling to decide whether I should keep using it like that or not.
post #3812 of 11962
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Well, I can't say my MSI's core is a great overclocker. The max it's hit while being stable is 1185MHz at +100mV. Anything higher and I get artifacting. I think it has something to do with temperatures though, so I will give it a try again once I grow enough balls to change my card's TIM. tongue.gif

Thing is, I'm wondering whether overclocking the core affects the memory and vice versa. It seems a bit more... Sensitive when both are higher. It certainly crashes quicker if it's going to crash. I'll keep abusing it in the next few days and see what I can come up with.

For now, I seem to have found a stable-ish, usable-ish overclock of 1165/1725MHz at +75/+60mV. Now normally I'm able to do 1170MHz with +75mV, but I tried running Heaven at 1170/1725 and it crashed. At 1165/1725 it went through half an hour of Valley though. So there's that. Alas, +60mV AUX does seem quite high... I'm really struggling to decide whether I should keep using it like that or not.

Have you tried running Trixx and pushing more than 100mv? If not, give that a try.
     
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Im using the MSI 390x but on an older pci-e gen2 slot what (if anything) am I loosing out on? My FPS are all where they should be and firstrike score is a respectable 10748 but im struggling to get a stable over clock over 1120mhz core or anything over 1650 vram. this could be heat related as tho as im touching 82c in stress testing...

would the older pci generation be the reason i keep getting the card recognised as a 290x?
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Have you tried running Trixx and pushing more than 100mv? If not, give that a try.

That's a big no-no for now. It already has a tendency to overheat at +100mV, so I'm afraid to go any higher without doing something about the cooling first. As soon as I replace the TIM, I may go up to +125mV or something, but certainly not higher. I'm too broke to buy another GPU right now, so I can't risk it. tongue.gif

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Im using the MSI 390x but on an older pci-e gen2 slot what (if anything) am I loosing out on? My FPS are all where they should be and firstrike score is a respectable 10748 but im struggling to get a stable over clock over 1120mhz core or anything over 1650 vram. this could be heat related as tho as im touching 82c in stress testing...

would the older pci generation be the reason i keep getting the card recognised as a 290x?

The MSI gets recognized as an 8GB 290x for some reason in Firestrike. It's normal, don't worry about it. Also, as long as you're running it at full x16 bandwidth, you'll most probably be fine. I'd say you'll be completely fine but, you know, one can never be sure. Just think of it as PCIe 3.0 x8, it's the same thing.

Now, regarding overclocking. You will need to push some volts into it to go higher than 1120MHz. Use Afterburner for that and also set a more aggressive fan curve in Afterburner's settings. The stock MSI one is aimed towards silent operation, so it tends to let your card run hot. Also, make sure your case airflow is adequate. These cards can greatly benefit from good airflow. 1650MHz for the RAM is fine. It already gives you over 400GB/s of bandwidth. Unless you're like me and you're chasing numbers, in which case... Yeah... Going higher will require you to raise your AUX voltage.

Just start by sticking to the basics, don't mess with everything at the same time. smile.gif
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That's a big no-no for now. It already has a tendency to overheat at +100mV, so I'm afraid to go any higher without doing something about the cooling first. As soon as I replace the TIM, I may go up to +125mV or something, but certainly not higher. I'm too broke to buy another GPU right now, so I can't risk it. tongue.gif

The MSI gets recognized as an 8GB 290x for some reason in Firestrike. It's normal, don't worry about it. Also, as long as you're running it at full x16 bandwidth, you'll most probably be fine. I'd say you'll be completely fine but, you know, one can never be sure. Just think of it as PCIe 3.0 x8, it's the same thing.

Now, regarding overclocking. You will need to push some volts into it to go higher than 1120MHz. Use Afterburner for that and also set a more aggressive fan curve in Afterburner's settings. The stock MSI one is aimed towards silent operation, so it tends to let your card run hot. Also, make sure your case airflow is adequate. These cards can greatly benefit from good airflow. 1650MHz for the RAM is fine. It already gives you over 400GB/s of bandwidth. Unless you're like me and you're chasing numbers, in which case... Yeah... Going higher will require you to raise your AUX voltage.

Just start by sticking to the basics, don't mess with everything at the same time. smile.gif

I am running the full pci-e gen 2.0 x16 didnt think It would make much of a difference from the scores im getting it in the right ball park. Im not trying to to break world records i just feel like im lagging behind what other users are getting. I have a define s case with 6 140mm fans so airflow is not an issue. I did drop a massive 15c in the witcher3 by putting a fan on the side panel blowing onto the card directly and an extra exhaust in the roof, before that i actually had a red screen of death and heat soak issues in the case. Might just stick where i am for now and try again when i get the watercooling installed in the new year...

Love the card tho playing pretty much everthing maxed out and at 1440p in most cases. not bad a £250 card (friend brought it by mistake and lost reciept so couldnt return it) he brought a 980ti:rolleyes:
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post #3816 of 11962
Besides benching I've been quite timid with my card only running +25mV core @1150/1650. I've clocked higher and temps aren't an issue but I get around 60fps in Witcher 3 with hairworks on (most of the time).

Can anyone recommend a good fan controller? I have 6 case fans running @100%, which is fine for the most part as they are not too loud, but it's really unnecessary when I'm not gaming. Ideally it would fit in a 5.25 drive and not be as deep as a disc drive, or something I can mount elsewhere. Really I just want to be able to turn all the fans down and then crank them up when OCing. So actually the less dials/switches I need to turn the better.
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Originally Posted by Dundundata View Post

Besides benching I've been quite timid with my card only running +25mV core @1150/1650. I've clocked higher and temps aren't an issue but I get around 60fps in Witcher 3 with hairworks on (most of the time).

Can anyone recommend a good fan controller? I have 6 case fans running @100%, which is fine for the most part as they are not too loud, but it's really unnecessary when I'm not gaming. Ideally it would fit in a 5.25 drive and not be as deep as a disc drive, or something I can mount elsewhere. Really I just want to be able to turn all the fans down and then crank them up when OCing. So actually the less dials/switches I need to turn the better.

I can't recommend a specific one, but I have an excellent one built into my case, with 2 channels (up to 3 fans or 18w per channel - which is plenty btw).

I have 4 Noctua 2k RPM fans hooked which run whisper quiet at the flick of a slide, and give me *superb* temps wheb cranked up. I can pump 200mv into my Vapor X like it's nothing and have VRMs in the low 50s easily.

The case is a Nanoxia Deep Silence 1.
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Originally Posted by Dundundata View Post

Besides benching I've been quite timid with my card only running +25mV core @1150/1650. I've clocked higher and temps aren't an issue but I get around 60fps in Witcher 3 with hairworks on (most of the time).

Can anyone recommend a good fan controller? I have 6 case fans running @100%, which is fine for the most part as they are not too loud, but it's really unnecessary when I'm not gaming. Ideally it would fit in a 5.25 drive and not be as deep as a disc drive, or something I can mount elsewhere. Really I just want to be able to turn all the fans down and then crank them up when OCing. So actually the less dials/switches I need to turn the better.

I had this on my previous build worked a treat

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=27219&cPath=408

Haven't installed it into my new build just haven't had the time to rewire everything
post #3819 of 11962
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Originally Posted by Dundundata View Post

My MSI core clocks great, the memory not so much. My XFX was the opposite. I wouldn't worry about it.
good thing the core is what we really like to clock the most! besides with a crossfire r9 390x msi gaming, thats 16 gigs of vram. i havent seen big performance boosts from clocking the vram, even with a 100 mhz boost.
post #3820 of 11962
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im looking forward for the Alphacool nexxxos GPX tests from you guys!
Wanna overclock my Nitro without VRM-Melting^^

I cant wait either! Tomorrow is the day, probably be up and running with deltas and specs this weekend!
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