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We can still mod that to emulate a full PT3. The mods I did where just VDDC Limit related.

Maxwells are not that Power bheavy compared to Hawaiis.

Well, whatever you did took it from 1.285v minimums, to 1.305v minimums. So, it definitely helped.

I may wait until I get my new cables made with the capacitors on them, to smooth out the voltage further before it gets to the GPU. No idea if that'll actually do anything, but......can't hurt either. lol
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Meanwhile, I'm just sittin' here trying to figure out how to go over my highest score, which is in the 14700 +change range, that I got with 1185/1725MHz. Sad thing is, same config now gives me around 14400-14500, just like any other clock that's 1150MHz or above. I've tried up to 1225MHz, still there. And that guy is pushing 16.6k? What is he cooling with? Steroids? tongue.gif

PS : Please stop this custom BIOS discussion. You're tempting me and I shouldn't think about it. I want to sell the card later. tongue.gif
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SHOOR. VDDC Limit is guaranteed working. But be aware that black screens come with High Voltages.

Maybe we can try Memory tweaks for you. Magic Hex too if allowed.

Sad to say, you are within the very edge of what I can consider safe in terms of temps. tongue.gif

Yeah, I'm definitely going to want to delve into the BIOS mod thing.

Those temps were with case fans at 1600rpm (tiny litle s340), so I am probably going to set them to a full tilt 2250 and get that heat out of there a little better.

I don't expect much more than 1200/1700 with the card, but if I can tweak those memory timings to squeeze some better numbers, that'll be awesome.
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post #6464 of 11897
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Well, whatever you did took it from 1.285v minimums, to 1.305v minimums. So, it definitely helped.

I may wait until I get my new cables made with the capacitors on them, to smooth out the voltage further before it gets to the GPU. No idea if that'll actually do anything, but......can't hurt either. lol

Caps should help. But how big it is matters. Though, you might get away with smaller (microFarads uF) rating due to switching PSUs producing higher Voltage frequencies than 60Hz ac wall frequency.

Car Audio nuts are familiar with over 1 Farad caps. They are rather bulky and impractical for our use.

And the fact that PCs convert 12V to smaller voltages caps effect will be minimal as Voltages fed unto components rely now to the Voltage regulators and circuitry.


BTW, you know we can mod your DPM7 Voltage right? We can set it to 1.287 as the base.


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Meanwhile, I'm just sittin' here trying to figure out how to go over my highest score, which is in the 14700 +change range, that I got with 1185/1725MHz. Sad thing is, same config now gives me around 14400-14500, just like any other clock that's 1150MHz or above. I've tried up to 1225MHz, still there. And that guy is pushing 16.6k? What is he cooling with? Steroids? tongue.gif

PS : Please stop this custom BIOS discussion. You're tempting me and I shouldn't think about it. I want to sell the card later. tongue.gif

Yoh can sell them with stock roms. No problems.
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Yoh can sell them with stock roms. No problems.

Doesn't flashing the BIOS immediately void the warranty? Or is it a "if you return it at its stock condition it's ok" kind of thing? If so, then the only thing keeping me from doing it is the fact that the MSI only has one BIOS, but what's the possibility something could go THAT wrong?

Other than that, one could debate whether it's worth it for a stock air-cooled card or not, but that's down to personal preference I guess. I don't think I could squeeze that much out of it without better cooling. That doesn't take the fun out of it though. thumb.gif
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Caps should help. But how big it is matters. Though, you might get away with smaller (microFarads uF) rating due to switching PSUs producing higher Voltage frequencies than 60Hz ac wall frequency.

Car Audio nuts are familiar with over 1 Farad caps. They are rather bulky and impractical for our use.

And the fact that PCs convert 12V to smaller voltages caps effect will be minimal as Voltages fed unto components rely now to the Voltage regulators and circuitry.


BTW, you know we can mod your DPM7 Voltage right? We can set it to 1.287 as the base.

Hmm....that wouldn't be bad for a benchmark only mod. I could always use the stock bios for gaming and such.

Would that allow for higher voltages without vdroop?
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here are some quotes from my discussion with mr agent smith
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Originally Posted by Navjack27 
1250? i remember running a 1175 run with 1750 and 1650 memory.

now i'm still to this day confused about the tesselation but whenever i run it (not for green vs red competitions lol) i run it making sure to have tess set in the registry to use app setting.

lemme look at my 3dmark results to remind myself

i believe that this run http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7457158 was with tess set to 0x3400 = 4x in registry

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7457089 was unmodified

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7017421 i'm quite sure was just massive overclocking on the gpu with memory timings (1250 timings artifacts at 1750mhz, did 1625 instead) so i ran it 1175core 1625memory +125mv core and like i said i took the 1250 memory strap and moved it up to every memory timing up to 1750 (my bios says it goes to 2000mhz memory as max but never tried)



i use radeonmod registry editor to tweak a couple other things like DISABLEDMACOPY 1 and DISABLEBLOCKWRITE 0 i also use clockblocker in ADL mode which i manually set to on after i set my overclock with iTurbo

i guess i also notice that fresh installs of drivers mean a ton to the system so i wipe the registry of everything related to amd crimson and catalyst and then uninstall and then check again and then run ddu AND THEN install the last newest catalyst and then the newest crimson.

its been a while since i've been in mega 3dmark firestrike benching mode so i could run some with my new cpu and try to recreate my results or best them.
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So what about this one?

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7016767

I call BS at 1175...... there is a way to kill tess in crimson and get around futuremark I believe.
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LOL i do know how to get around it from being detected. stumbled upon it by accident honestly.

i call BS on most of my firestrike scores just due to how convoluted the registry is with the graphical settings and how there are still internal profiles for each app you add PLUS not knowing when crimson profiles override registry settings

*note not settings i used when i benched, just an example*
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one thing tho is that the memory timings DO account for TONS of extra points. maybe 500-1500 or 2000 extra points mattering on whats going on in your system.

the ones you pointed out, i BELIEVE have the drivers using use app setting tess, but i also said i can't account for what the drivers ACTUALLY listen to for the setting which infuriates me because of getting called out. i'd not use those scores as comparisons for my own data if i cheated.

also i'm sure they are low in other areas due to my old 4790s. maybe... ahhh **** it, i'll do some benching today with my new broadwell.
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here are some quotes from my discussion with mr agent smith



Good lord....whatever happened to just running the freakin benchmark with an overclock and seeing how well you do? This level of modification is just plain shady.....registry files and such? /smh Pretty pathetic, really.
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maybe its the new way of life? gotta get every inch of performance outta ur system when you hit a thermal or power limit.

here, i did just that tho
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7677687

reset to default driver settings. its not a fluke.

EDIT: nvidia users just have an easier way of modifying settings with nvidia inspector, you think no one does it?
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Originally Posted by navjack27 View Post

maybe its the new way of life? gotta get every inch of performance outta ur system when you hit a thermal or power limit.

here, i did just that tho
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7677687

reset to default driver settings. its not a fluke.

EDIT: nvidia users just have an easier way of modifying settings with nvidia inspector, you think no one does it?

Didn't say nobody does....just said it's pretty pathetic to get a higher score. To me, that's the same thing as the d-bags that use aim bots in shooters. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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