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Originally Posted by Vellinious View Post

Hmm....that wouldn't be bad for a benchmark only mod. I could always use the stock bios for gaming and such.

Would that allow for higher voltages without vdroop?

That can give you a higher ceiling.




You can do that with Hawaii Bios Reader.

Notice the Black boxes? That can be manually set. I personally just put the value on the RED box unto those and let OC tools do the rest of the overvolting.
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That can give you a higher ceiling.




You can do that with Hawaii Bios Reader.

Notice the Black boxes? That can be manually set. I personally just put the value on the RED box unto those and let OC tools do the rest of the overvolting.

Hmm. Ok, I'll take a look at that tonight.
post #6473 of 11956
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Doesn't flashing the BIOS immediately void the warranty? Or is it a "if you return it at its stock condition it's ok" kind of thing? If so, then the only thing keeping me from doing it is the fact that the MSI only has one BIOS, but what's the possibility something could go THAT wrong?

Other than that, one could debate whether it's worth it for a stock air-cooled card or not, but that's down to personal preference I guess. I don't think I could squeeze that much out of it without better cooling. That doesn't take the fun out of it though. thumb.gif

You can save the original BIOS thru GPU-Z. It's a complete replica. Flash the card, if things go wrong, flash back the original bios.

They can't tell, you flashed it.
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Didn't say nobody does....just said it's pretty pathetic to get a higher score. To me, that's the same thing as the d-bags that use aim bots in shooters. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

the important thing is this, at least to me
http://hwbot.org/news/9039_application_52_rules/
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here are some quotes from my discussion with mr agent smith


Good lord....whatever happened to just running the freakin benchmark with an overclock and seeing how well you do? This level of modification is just plain shady.....registry files and such? /smh Pretty pathetic, really.


maybe its the new way of life? gotta get every inch of performance outta ur system when you hit a thermal or power limit.

here, i did just that tho
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7677687

reset to default driver settings. its not a fluke.

EDIT: nvidia users just have an easier way of modifying settings with nvidia inspector, you think no one does it?



Didn't say nobody does....just said it's pretty pathetic to get a higher score. To me, that's the same thing as the d-bags that use aim bots in shooters. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

I wouldn't call this BS. If it matters in Benches, it will matter in Gaming. Both users can benefit from these mods.

nVidia guys have LOD Tweaks that are also allowed on the bot for competitive purposes. They do the same thing I believe.
post #6476 of 11956
Bios editing is pretty cool.

The first step is to make sure you have a backup gpu as bricking your card is a near certainty and you need another card to reflash. I keep my igpu enabled and make sure its the primary in the bios so that's what I use for DOS flashing.

Bumping memory timings just takes a few minutes in a hex editor (hex workshop? ) and will get you 2-4% more fps at no cost whatsoever. Why manufacturers don't fix the straps is beyond me.

Editing voltage is the next step. Aida can tell you what your stock voltage states are. You can then edit this by changing all 6 tables (not just the two shown). This is no different from simply bumping voltage in afterburner though. It can let you raise the stock voltage or let you go over +100 mV.

You can also change the default clock and memory. Also no different from using afterburner.

IIRC mine is set to 1740 ram with 1100 timings. 1225 mV and 1090 mhz on core. It's the same voltage as stock and power use isn't very high, but gets about 12% more performance. If I get cold or want more fps then I oc more in afterburner.

The bios editing thread is cool and full of helpful people but can get a bit daunting with their terminology.
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post #6477 of 11956
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

I wouldn't call this BS. If it matters in Benches, it will matter in Gaming. Both users can benefit from these mods.

nVidia guys have LOD Tweaks that are also allowed on the bot for competitive purposes. They do the same thing I believe.

LOD tweaks?

HW Bot rules are pretty shady too, imo.... I do runs with tess tweaks on FS for comparison purposes, but, I'd never go into the registry or try to hide the fact that the run I had done was with a tess tweak to pass if off as a "legit score". There's a REASON they call it a "legit score", btw.....lol

I understand wanting to be competitive, but, I can't see stooping to that level to get a better score. "Pond scum" comes to mind, almost immediately....
post #6478 of 11956
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Originally Posted by Vellinious View Post

LOD tweaks?

HW Bot rules are pretty shady too, imo.... I do runs with tess tweaks on FS for comparison purposes, but, I'd never go into the registry or try to hide the fact that the run I had done was with a tess tweak to pass if off as a "legit score". There's a REASON they call it a "legit score", btw.....lol

I understand wanting to be competitive, but, I can't see stooping to that level to get a better score. "Pond scum" comes to mind, almost immediately....


Level of Detail mods.

Same here though. And just thought about what I said. If it tweaks TESS, just turn off TESS.

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Originally Posted by jdorje View Post

Bios editing is pretty cool.

The first step is to make sure you have a backup gpu as bricking your card is a near certainty and you need another card to reflash. I keep my igpu enabled and make sure its the primary in the bios so that's what I use for DOS flashing.

Bumping memory timings just takes a few minutes in a hex editor (hex workshop? ) and will get you 2-4% more fps at no cost whatsoever. Why manufacturers don't fix the straps is beyond me.

Editing voltage is the next step. Aida can tell you what your stock voltage states are. You can then edit this by changing all 6 tables (not just the two shown). This is no different from simply bumping voltage in afterburner though. It can let you raise the stock voltage or let you go over +100 mV.

You can also change the default clock and memory. Also no different from using afterburner.

IIRC mine is set to 1740 ram with 1100 timings. 1225 mV and 1090 mhz on core. It's the same voltage as stock and power use isn't very high, but gets about 12% more performance. If I get cold or want more fps then I oc more in afterburner.

The bios editing thread is cool and full of helpful people but can get a bit daunting with their terminology.

Damn right. biggrin.gif
post #6479 of 11956
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

That can give you a higher ceiling.




You can do that with Hawaii Bios Reader.

Notice the Black boxes? That can be manually set. I personally just put the value on the RED box unto those and let OC tools do the rest of the overvolting.

My power play tab doesn't look like that. I don't have the voltage table there..... ??
post #6480 of 11956
I am using the old one.

HawaiiBiosReader.zip 32k .zip file
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