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Hmm. Ok, I'll take a look at that tonight.

The red box you show there is already set to 1287mv. ??
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LOD tweaks?

HW Bot rules are pretty shady too, imo.... I do runs with tess tweaks on FS for comparison purposes, but, I'd never go into the registry or try to hide the fact that the run I had done was with a tess tweak to pass if off as a "legit score". There's a REASON they call it a "legit score", btw.....lol

I understand wanting to be competitive, but, I can't see stooping to that level to get a better score. "Pond scum" comes to mind, almost immediately....

I think it's just fair to allow both sides to do tweaks. So long as they are within the rules.
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I think it's just fair to allow both sides to do tweaks. So long as they are within the rules.

I kind of understand both sides, i just still can't wrap my head around some of the software tweaks i.e. LOD/Tess.
Essentially your changing the way the benchmark was intended to run. On the overclocking side it makes total sense to tweak hardware settings as your tweaking your box.

For me it feels like this, modify your race car for the track(i.e your rig) and race. Tweaking graphical quality in the said benchmark is like modifying the race track for your advantage.(defeating the purpose of the race)

Just my personal opinion,.

Anyways its all fun and games, until someone loses an eye. Then it's just fun and games in the dark
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The red box you show there is already set to 1287mv. ??

Copy the value from the Red box unto what I boxed in Black. Both of them blacks. Must be identical or else. smile.gif
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So.... go the 390x fired up last night.

Seems to be a decent card so far.

Not done testing by any means, but initial results are 1180MHz at 60mv/1750MHz VRAM at 50mv AUX, with a FS graphics score of 14,616..... (that's a 100% no artifact, and game stable test speed).

All I need to do is put those 1250 memory straps in place and it should be able to get her up to15k, which is dead even with my 980 KPE at 1526/1947 (15,033).
Now factor in how crippled the memory bus is on the 980 while running at 4k, and you can see how the 390 will definitely pull ahead at high resolution..... YES, even in an overclocked 980 vs overclocked 390 situation, which people in the 980 boards have tried to use against the 390 several times, and I can now confirm that even though the maxwell overclocks a lot better, it doesn't seem to matter all that much. I am getting identical performance between the two cards with their respective overclocks.

I fired up some GTA V at the exact same 4k settings I used on my 980 last night and the performance was actually smoother. The 980 did okay on framerates, but it would get hitches every once in a while from pegging the VRAM out. It consistently used almost all the VRAM at 4k, and that was my primary reason for going back to AMD's 4 year old space heater, lol.

Don't get me wrong though ,I could put the 980 at non- stable clocks and get some nice benches in the 15,600+range, which is indeed better than what running this 390x at a non-stable 1210~ / 1750+ clocks will get (probbaly around 15k), but to me, if the clocks aren't stable for daily use, then the benching can't be comparable. I guess those numbers could be indicative of water cooling, but for air, the 390x is not an inferior card to the 980 at all from a performance standpoint. The inferiority comes in the ford of power and temps...... oh and that driver argument everybody keeps making against AMD? Bullcrap!. I'm hearing as much driver woes from green owners as I ever have....

One athlete may respond better to roids than another, but both athletes performing to the best of their non-doped abilities may be very similar.....
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So.... go the 390x fired up last night.

Seems to be a decent card so far.

Not done testing by any means, but initial results are 1180MHz at 60mv/1750MHz VRAM at 50mv AUX, with a FS graphics score of 14,616..... (that's a 100% no artifact, and game stable test speed).

All I need to do is put those 1250 memory straps in place and it should be able to get her up to15k, which is dead even with my 980 KPE at 1526/1947 (15,033).
Now factor in how crippled the memory bus is on the 980 while running at 4k, and you can see how the 390 will definitely pull ahead at high resolution..... YES, even in an overclocked 980 vs overclocked 390 situation, which people in the 980 boards have tried to use against the 390 several times, and I can now confirm that even though the maxwell overclocks a lot better, it doesn't seem to matter all that much. I am getting identical performance between the two cards with their respective overclocks.

I fired up some GTA V at the exact same 4k settings I used on my 980 last night and the performance was actually smoother. The 980 did okay on framerates, but it would get hitches every once in a while from pegging the VRAM out. It consistently used almost all the VRAM at 4k, and that was my primary reason for going back to AMD's 4 year old space heater, lol.

Don't get me wrong though ,I could put the 980 at non- stable clocks and get some nice benches in the 15,600+range, which is indeed better than what running this 390x at a non-stable 1210~ / 1750+ clocks will get (probbaly around 15k), but to me, if the clocks aren't stable for daily use, then the benching can't be comparable. I guess those numbers could be indicative of water cooling, but for air, the 390x is not an inferior card to the 980 at all from a performance standpoint. The inferiority comes in the ford of power and temps...... oh and that driver argument everybody keeps making against AMD? Bullcrap!. I'm hearing as much driver woes from green owners as I ever have....

One athlete may respond better to roids than another, but both athletes performing to the best of their non-doped abilities may be very similar.....

If you're only getting those clocks out of a GM204, AND a KPE? You should probably try again......
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Being a KPE has no affect on the card clocking any better on air than any other 980..... It's a purpose built card, and that purpose is LN2 (I only had the card cause I got it on a trade)

1526 is not too bad for the core on air with stock voltage, but I was terribly disappointed in the memory. It would bench up to 2,020+ on stock voltage (mind you these are Samsung chips), but for daily use, I couldn't get her past 1950 or so at 4k without corruption or inevitable black screens. The card had an ASIC of 69.7 so it was no golden core or anything. Looking through 980 forums, and having did tons of research during the time I had the card, 1500-1530 range is very normal for EVGA classies...
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On another note......

This 390X seems to act exactly like my MSI 390 did in regards to overclocking, except for the memory seems to like 1750 much better than that card did (though it still seems to want AUX voltage to get there).....


When I first got the 390, I couldn't get past 1180 for the first few days, then after a ton of different settings and MSI AB power setting tweaks, I was able to find a stable 1200 @ 88mv on the nose, so hope I can land at 1200 on this one too.
Looking at my temps though (71c full tilt after an hour of GTA V at 4k), I certainly won't be doing much more than 80-100mv with the voltage for daily use. redface.gif
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Being a KPE has no affect on the card clocking any better on air than any other 980..... It's a purpose built card, and that purpose is LN2 (I only had the card cause I got it on a trade)

1526 is not too bad for the core on air with stock voltage, but I was terribly disappointed in the memory. It would bench up to 2,020+ on stock voltage (mind you these are Samsung chips), but for daily use, I couldn't get her past 1950 or so at 4k without corruption or inevitable black screens. The card had an ASIC of 69.7 so it was no golden core or anything. Looking through 980 forums, and having did tons of research during the time I had the card, 1500-1530 range is very normal for EVGA classies...

That's actually pretty poor for a GM204. Most GM204 based GPUs can nearly boost 2.0 to 1500 by just maxing the power limit and adding a tiny bit of voltage. Most GM204s I've help setup with custom bios files, and had them setup custom fan curves with are well over 1550 on air, some as high as 1600. 69% ASIC for Maxwell is pretty bad, yes....but there's still room there.

I'd get the voltage tool and put some clock on it, before you start making claims that your 390 can best it....thus far, your 980 KPE is only a couple hundred points higher than my best 970 graphics scores. My best was 14880.....

For reference....a decent 980 will pull low 17k graphics scores. Get a good clock on them, and they'll pull high 17k. On air, you should still be able to see mid to high 15k graphics scores.

Sorry for the long post, just seems like you're not really pushing that card very much. /shrug
Edited by Vellinious - 2/25/16 at 6:56am
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