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YES!! No matter what, always ONLY 1 fan per header on a mobo. You don't want to overload a mobo fan header with too much amperage from multiple fans. That's a reason some mobo's have 2x cpu fan headers.

Now you can do this if you want. You can buy an adapter for the fan header that is on your 980ti pcb that will convert it to a regular 3/4pin fan header. Then you can use MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision (or whatever program you use) and set a custom fan profile and then the fan on the Rad will change how you want from the fan profile you set up in that program. BUT, and HUGE BUT, you want to use a fan that has a very low amperage draw!!! Fans like the EK Vardar's pull very little power to run at full speed. There is like 5 different Vardar models to choose from. I would go with the 1850rpm or the 2200rpm models and then set the fan profile to adjust how you want it too.

Personally I use 10x EK Vardar F4-120 2200rpm High Performance fans on my 2x 360mm and 1x 480mm Rads in my system and I love them. They have great static pressure and are MEANT for pushing air through rads and were designed for it. I'm pretty sure it's the EK Vardar F3-120 that's 1850rpms if that's what you want instead? The F3's aren't as loud at 100%, though the F4 isn't really loud either even with 10 of them lol.

Main thing with the EK Vardar fans though is they pull like 0.8 amps or something ridiculously low compared to other fans on the market. You have to look on EK's site to see exactly. The F3's pull a little less than the F4's, F2's even lower, F1's lowest. Don't bother with a F5 though tongue.gif those are like 3000rpm fans and really loud and overkill.

Just an idea that I think you would really like to do with what you are saying here. If you have any ?'s , feel free to ask and I'll always try to help out bud thumb.gif

EDIT: Guess I should have looked up the X41 first lol. I was thinking of the top of my head that the X41 was 120mm and X61 was the 140mm, not that one was single 140 and other being dual 140mm. But not to worry, I still gotcha here. EK has now came out with the 140mm EK Vardar's and they are sweet fans!! Probably the best 140mm fans you can buy. Worth every penny they cost.

Link to EK's 140mm Vardar's
http://www.ekwb.com/news/615/19/Long-awaited-Vardar-140mm-fans-are-finally-here/

Thanks I ordered this adapter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ZKZEQA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

I am confused...is that for the 92mm fan or will that be for my radiator fan on the x41?

I have an Fractal HP-14 PWM fan for the radiator - love these fans. I know the EK fans are awesome too though.

Since I am getting the x41 I would probably just control the fan curves off of CAM....
Edited by CC268 - 11/7/15 at 6:48am
    
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That adapter is for the fan on the rad so that you can control its fanspeed off the GPU in something like MSI after burner.

The 92mm fan that comes with the Kraken G10 to cool the VRM is a normal 3 pin fan.


Edited by Chargeit - 11/7/15 at 7:16am
     
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Alright thanks for clearing that up.
    
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Yeah, I would just run the 92mm fan at 80% all times or as fast as it can before it's too audible and leave it like that. Then use the Gpu header for the rad fan and control that via MSI AB or whatnot for keeping the gpu cool apon demand.

I had a sweet AIO setup in my old setup for a while on 2 780ti's. It worked out pretty dame good IMO. max temps of both 780ti's were only 45c and that was with modded bios's I made and them running a very high core clock.

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That looks pretty good.

As long as you get the needed extensions, tuck wires away, and get your rads facing in good directions there's no reason you can't add a AIO cooler to your GPU and have it look nice...

Now, for the first night I had mine hooked up I was waiting for my extensions to come in and my system looked all Frankenstein. After I got my extensions in and touched the wires up it looked slick and I'm very happy with the overall appearance.
     
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Very true. That was the 1st system that actually looked like AIO's were meant to be lol. It worked amazing too with how I had it setup. The cpu only hit 70-72c while overclocked to 4.8ghz, and the 2x 780ti's hit 45c under max loads. For 3 AIO's in a setup, it was the best temps I've ever seen. That setup only lasted about 2 weeks tho and I went to custom water loop on everything. I'm just a custom system builder and like to try out different setups so I know what can be done and then pass it on to my people that get my builds. I have to spend a lot of money to make back the bit of money I make off the builds, but I learn a lot in doing so and then people get to benefit off of it and get badass systems for a lot lower than anywhere else.

Just got a system in the other day that a old friend from school brought me. He went through Cyber Power PC for his build and he got ripped off pretty
bad from them.

"NOT BASHING YOU CYBER POWER, BUT I AM GOING TO BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT I SEEN".

He bought a 4770k on a g45 gaming mobo (z87) with 16gigs of 1866mhz ram, cpu cooled by a H60. Came with gtx770 and evga 750w B1 power supply. Came to me for a Gpu upgrade. I recommended a gtx980ti for what he wanted to do, game in 4k somewhat and see how that was. Also wanted me to do an overclock on his cpu and new gpu.

Problems with the system:
1st: started off overclocking the cpu. dug into things and H60 was hooked up to a molex for the fan @ 100% all times. pump was hooked up to the cpu header and was running an auto fan profile that was never touched. 1st bad thing. pump was only running about 25% on the fan profile. too low for a pump IMO and especially a AIO pump that barely has flow. changed that to sit at 70% idle and go up to 100% if cpu was over 50c. After dialing it in and ended up with a 4.4ghz 4770k with max temps of 76c under load. 4.5ghz went to 85c very fast and was too much for the H60 with ambient temps of 21c.

2nd: New gpu. Hooked up the 980ti and took power from 2 different rails as that psu had 4 12v rails with a total of 61amp. so that's only 15.25amps per rail. Before I did anything with his system from CPpc, I told him I thought I might run into problems with that PSU they put in. I never use a multi rail PSU in any builds. Had many problems years ago from it and learned my lesson. I use nothing less than a Corsair AX / HX series psu in ANY BUILD. Booted his pc up and and installed new driver and things were great. Started up a benchmark to see how the MSI Gaming 6g 980ti was. Within 2 sec of starting the benchmark (AvP) the pc started whining like you wouldn't believe. Even my dog looked over like WTH biggrin.gif . 5sec into the test the pc just shut right down and was off, and then booted back up in few sec. Coil whine like crazy!! wasn't sure if it was the new gpu or the psu doing that. called him and asked if he ever heard anything like that gaming on it before. he said no. told him what happend and said I had to redo his wiring and add a new psu in there for that new card. 15.25amps x 2 = 31.5amp, but a 980ti ref card alone needs 38amp, a MSI gaming 6g with 2x 8pin pci-e connectors needs a little more with the factory overclock. 40-42amps or so. Went and got him a Corsair AX750 refurb for $79 at microcenter and redid the wiring and added it in. Fired back up and system was totally silent and benchmark was running butta smooth. temps were great on the MSI G6g at only 67c maxed out. thumb.gif AWESOME CARD MSI thumb.gif !!

3rd: Cyber Power didn't do a thing in the bios, nothing at all. didn't set a thing for the cpu, all auto everything. didn't set a thing for his ram THEY sold him in the build which was 1866mhz c9. ram was all on auto running at 1333mhz with all auto timings which got lucky on this part that default ran c9 (9-9-9-27) timings if running auto 1333mhz. But whats the point to sell anyone ram that is 1866mhz and you put in a system that you are SELLING and not set it up?!?! That's what really pissed me off mad.gif . He could of bought ram for $100 less that ran that!! Big wrong and I will steer away from CP for that. I do not rip anyone off I do a build for. You buy 1866, you are getting 1866 performance. Just not cool in my book. Anyways, set the ram up at rated speeds and timings and retested the systems overclocks now. all was good, temps were great, system was perfectly silent now and nothing to worry about now. He was very happy.

I am a HUGE FAN of the new MSI Gaming 6g card, what a great cooler and setup. can't hear it barely at all at full fan speed. Good Job MSI

Just seen that microcenter by me has the EVGA 980ti Hybrid in now that comes with a AIO already and will RMA as is. Told him for an extra $10 over what he spent on the other card and he could have the gpu on water with an AIO like his cpu was. may end up putting that in for him free of charge just so he's better off on some warm summer days. Temp drop of 20c while gaming will be nice for couple hours of gaming. will dump out a lot less heat that running on air.

I can see why to move to an AIO on your gpu tho as well. Best bang for the buck and works great tho! I'm done with my story tongue.gif
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Man, didn't even bother to set the ram to XMP profile. That's pretty slack.

I'm just happy that I now handle my own builds. After having experience with building PC's I'd hate to rely on some dude making $8 an hour to care enough to get my system setup correctly. Amazing also that they didn't have the cpu fan and pump hooked up correctly. It's like man, didn't ya'll notice something was off.

Yea, after setting my 980 ti up with an AIO I will never go back to air GPU cooling. Water cooling is a little too much since I don't want to deal with maintenance. But, I'll always at least AIO cool my rig.
     
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The maintenance really isn't too bad. If you're lazy like me just drain the loop and check/clean the blocks once a year. Weekend's worth of work at most. I'd say the real issue with custom loops is they're money pits. There's a fairly high initial cost involved even if you just go with a simple CPU+GPU loop, but the bigger problem is once you have it set up you constantly get the urge to add/tweak something or fiddle around with the aesthetics, so it ends up being an even bigger money pit than it has to be. Or maybe I have issues redface.gif
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AIO's are a great cheap way to get some serious cooling on a gpu. bout $100 per card and hassle free pretty much, can't go wrong with that and being able to now mod with custom bios's and clock the hell out of them and run at 45c or so maxed out. can't ever do that on air, unless it's for a quick benchmark run, but not for hours of hours of gaming.

I hear ya on the expense of custom water too man. I went back in after the 2 weeks with the aio's and i went in FULL BOARD!!

2x 360mm xt45's
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Yeah, I'd say that cost a bit more than a AIO for your gpu/cpu LOL biggrin.gif
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4790K @ 5ghz 1.350v 75c max load temps Asus Maximus VI Formula Evga Gtx Titan X @ 1500mhz / 7800mhz +112mv EK Acetal / Nickel / Nickel back plate 
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Corsair Vengence Pro 32gig 2400mhz c11 red (4x8... 6x 256gig (1.5tb) in Raid 0 , OS / Gaming Drive 2 x Liteon 256gig (512gig) storage drives Asus Dvd-RW 
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Awesome setup...so is it cool to put mine up front as an intake like you did yours?? I can put it as an exhaust but I'm gonna have to move my top mounted X61 and it might look a bit goofy
    
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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB WD Caviar Blue 1TB NZXT Kraken X61  NZXT Kraken X41 
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NZXT Kraken G10 NZXT Grid V2 Fractal Design Venturi HF-14 Fans (140mm) Windows 10 Home 
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Mionix Avior 7000 Glorious PC Gaming XXL Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 AKG K612 PRO 
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Intel i5-6600K ASUS MAXIMUS VIII Hero MSI GeForce GTX 980TI  Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4-3000 
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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB WD Caviar Blue 1TB NZXT Kraken X61  NZXT Kraken X41 
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NZXT Kraken G10 NZXT Grid V2 Fractal Design Venturi HF-14 Fans (140mm) Windows 10 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS MX279H Corsair K70 RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 850W Fractal Design Define S w/ Window 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Mionix Avior 7000 Glorious PC Gaming XXL Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 AKG K612 PRO 
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Antion Audio ModMic FiiO E10K USB DAC CableMod E-Series G2/P2 Cable Kit 
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