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post #31 of 93
So why were you replying all the time just for sake to argue? My point is clear, lower latency may or may not be noticed but it will still register faster to the computer.

Its not a hard to understand, no idea why you chose to argue facts. I was replying to someone who said it wont make a difference if it registers at 1ms instead of 20ms. It will make exactly a 19ms difference when it comes to key registration, whether its noticeable to someone or not. No idea why you even decided to reply to me.

If you dont notice the latency difference, will the keys still register at 1ms? The answer is Yes.
If you notice the latency difference, will the keys still register at 1ms? The answer is Yes.

Your perception is irrevelant. I had to talk about 1ms vs 2ms because you didn't seem to grasp something so simple, which was my point all along and you decided to reply over and over again.

Its annoying when people decide to argue for nothing.
Edited by MasterBash - 7/16/15 at 4:47pm
post #32 of 93
1ms vs 20ms

2 frames @ 120hz = 16.67ms

You will be moving atleast two frames earlier in all instances.

This video needs ramming down the throat of every chromosome collector that doesn't understand the effect of input lag https://youtu.be/vOvQCPLkPt4?t=66

Even at 10ms you can easily see the delay, just because the way input lag is presented to us masks how perceptible it is it doesn't remove it's existence.
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Just out of curiosity, is this 20ms just some cherry picked (pun intended) value of some random keyboard that is in their favor to advertise Real Key or are there any available measurements of latencies of other mechanical keyboards to back their claim? I don't doubt that RealKey is an improvement but I wonder how much of an improvement it truly is. At least to me 20ms without signal processing sounds like a lot.
post #34 of 93
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Originally Posted by MadGear View Post

Just out of curiosity, is this 20ms just some cherry picked (pun intended) value of some random keyboard that is in their favor to advertise Real Key or are there any available measurements of latencies of other mechanical keyboards to back their claim? I don't doubt that RealKey is an improvement but I wonder how much of an improvement it truly is. At least to me 20ms without signal processing sounds like a lot.

 

I think that's a good question because I just recently changed a setting in my Registry for MouseHoverTime. I used to keep it at 0ms, but I grew tired of the instant opening of Jump Lists in the Start Menu (where the frequently-opened programs populate) and also any Jump Lists of items that are Pinned to the Start Menu. So, I experimented by increasing it to 20ms. That was better. It had a slight delay and was just enough so that I could slide my mouse cursor right over an item in the Start Menu that has a Jump List and it wouldn't open the list. However, I still wanted a longer delay, so I increased it a little more.

 

My point though is that, I noticed a delay at 20ms. When I type though, I have a much shorter delay than what I felt when I touched the item in the Start Menu that has a Jump List. My guess would be 5 or 10ms. Now, someone might be like, "that's because you have a good mechanical keyboard connected via PS/2". No, that's not it. How do I know? Because my previous keyboard was a cheap generic-like membrane keyboard and I never said anything when I upgraded like, "Wow, and there's a shorter delay too". So, how bad does a keyboard have to be to have a 20ms delay? lol

 

Anyway, setting all this aside, I would still want this keyboard for its build quality and its beauty.

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post #35 of 93
There was a good thread about the issue of keyboard lag times on Geekhack a while ago, where someone actually took a whole bunch of measurements...unfortunately, it's no longer available, but it looks like the Internet Archive has managed to save some of it:

http://web.archive.org/web/20111114115138/http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Keyboard+scan+rates&viewfull=1&page=8&do=comments

...to cut a long story short, an input lag of 20ms, even for a decent keyboard, is very plausible.
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post #36 of 93
Owners what you think about this keyboard? I have very weird taste and small number of mechanical keyboard is attractive to me but I like this keyboard same as CORSAIR K70 non RGB.
But this keyboard look more durable and no Gaming logo and it's more for little older population. Except that tradition of company is one more plus compare to K70.
K70 have volume key exactly as i used to and I use him often.
I like both of them but maybe is this little more attractive and looking everything together. Other companies very often launch bunch of different models but this is specif from respectable company. Who sell in Europe?
Edited by Vlada011 - 9/13/15 at 1:06am
post #37 of 93
Logitech romer-g is actually faster than this.
Edited by dhaine - 2/1/16 at 8:36pm
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post #38 of 93
Yes competition was K70, Cherry MX Board 6.0 and Deck Hassium Pro.
CORSAIR K70 non RGB was nice because it's only motherboard on market of that type with flat surface and easy for cleaning dust.
But I decide to go with Deck Hassium Pro or Cherry MX Board 6.0 if something good not show up soon.
Deck Hassium Pro US version have PBT switches and my keyboard now is same with US layout that's not any problem.
It is very hard to decide between that two. Cherry MX Board 6.0 and Deck Hassium Pro and Red or Brown Switches.
Deck Hassium Pro is maybe even closer to me.

I'm not competitive gamer I'm normal gamer but If I need to pay 130e to someone who start to sell and keyboards before 2 years as one more way to profit even if they never done something like that and
160-170e to company who made only keyboards 25-30 years for different purpose from hospital, offices, posts, etc... than I will not even pay attention on
40-50-60e more. Special for 6-7 years when someone tell me about price different and my keyboard still work.
Both are very beautiful Deck and Cherry.
post #39 of 93
Your keyboard case has faded?
post #40 of 93
to the Original Poster:

1: How you tested the 1ms response time from this keyboard can you link software for this?

2: This is like Mouse Hertz? that reports depends on the frequency / polling rate: 125Hz(8ms) / 500Hz (2ms) /1000 Hz (1ms)?

3: There arent already mech keyboards with 1000Hz polling rate in the market?

Please elaborate if you can.
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