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I have no problems on USB at all, no hiss and no humming and trust me my speakers are capable of showing small minute difference's.
I also know that human ears tend to hear things that are not there (happens when people buy expensive power cords and such wich i dont believe in)

My TV outs optical to my dac.
My PC can go through HDMI to the TV and so optical out to the dac again but the PC simply just sounds much better on USB.
For PC i always switch back to USB.

I would love optical to sound as nice because its less effort for me to use the dac then |(only need 1 connection instead of 2) but it just doesnt sound that nice unless i use a STX.
Sadly i dont have many options in testing optical, got TV, motherboard and a DGX, the STX is sold.

Couldnt the hiss and humm you get on USB be PSU/Motherboard related ?

Btw,
I am not going against you, just spouting my personal findings.

Yeah no, its just interesting.

I wish I had a microphone to show you what I am hearing. On every system I have listened to with usb, I have the exact same humming noise.

I go to lots of audio meets where people have laptops for their music, and it is the same damn thing.

Whats even weirder is how HDMI sounds worse than USB.

I know for a fact that the USB problem is mobo related because any mobo that as an isolated USB port (ie apple computers) sound great.

I mean they sell isolated separate USB add on cards specifically for people who want to use USB without the hum.

IDK. I think your mobo is just magic.
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Ok one FINAL question before I go with the Modi2/Magni2. I notice on the schiit website they have a list of products priced from top to bottom/low to high in price. I'm the type of guy that when I see a higher price I tend to assume it's better lol. The Vali amp is only $20 more than the modi2 and the Loki dac is only $50 more than the magni2. Should I get that combo? Sorry again rolleyes.gif

Like I said earlier. My budget (going over by a tad isn't a big deal) for the amp/dac is around $300. And I'm defiantly under that budget, so I have room.

No. The vali breaks a lot for what ever reason.

A handful of members have all had their valis break to some extent or another.



The loki is specifically for DSD.

You probably do not have an DSD music, sooooooooo for you it is basically and expensive paper weight.
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No. The vali breaks a lot for what ever reason.

A handful of members have all had their valis break to some extent or another.



The loki is specifically for DSD.

You probably do not have an DSD music, sooooooooo for you it is basically and expensive paper weight.
Ok, the modi2/magni2 it is then. I know it's not the best but it will at least be a small improvement and will get the job done. I appreciate the help the past couple days. Are there any cables I need to buy in order to plug everything in to each other or will it come with everything I need?
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I happily discovered that my old Yamaha HTR-5960 home theater receiver/amp has a Burr-Brown DAC in it, so I plug in the SPDIF optical cable to the motherboard audio (same digital bitstream you'd get from an expensive sound card) and run that into the amp for conversion into beautiful audio. I plug the line level output from the amp into a Headroom Max headphone amplifier, which goes to the HD600 headphones. It blows away the RealTek audio DAC and amplifier. And I can use the 100 watts per channel on my full size left/right speakers. Eventually I may decide to add some surround speakers but that's not too high on my priority list since I mostly use the headphones, with occasional MP3 and FLAC music on the speakers.

You can get the older Yamaha amps online at various places for a song, the models are discontinued and out of favor because they don't have HDMI. But they sound great, and those Burr Brown DACs are really nice. Aha, $140 at Amazon... http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-HTR-5960-7-1-Channel-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B000GU3JXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436604288&sr=8-1&keywords=htr+5960

Edit: I should add that the audio from the headphone jack on the Yamaha sounds pretty much indistinguishable from the $2,000 headphone amp. Sigh. That's one well-built home theater amp! Plugging in headphones on the Yamaha automatically shuts off the speakers. You can get volume as high as you can stand on the HD600 with this setup.
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Sorry for the little necro, but I just wanted to answer this question and add some advice.


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Ok, the modi2/magni2 it is then. I know it's not the best but it will at least be a small improvement and will get the job done. I appreciate the help the past couple days. Are there any cables I need to buy in order to plug everything in to each other or will it come with everything I need?


You will need some RCA cables. Just go to monoprice and get the premium RCA cables, like this: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021814&p_id=2864&seq=1&format=2 . Do not bother with the really expensive cables out there, its mostly snake oil. These cables are cheap and are of decent quality.



Also, despite the arguing in this thread, I really think you should get a decent sound card. If you were just listening to music, I would absolutely agree with Tjj226 Angel and that a sound card is unnecessary. However, I thought I saw that you said you would be gaming somewhere in this thread. Sound cards are needed to do some processing before the digital-to-analog conversion. For instance, all of the surround sound processing (which is useful in gaming) is done in a sound card not a DAC. Sound cards can also allow you to manually adjust the low, mid, and high frequencies to your specific tastes (for instance you may want to turn up the bass a bit, or the upper mids if you are having trouble understanding people). Personally, I am losing some hearing in the high frequencies, so i like to boost just the high frequencies a bit to compensate. You cannot do this without a sound card (or some other audio processing device).

Most of the nicer sound cards also can do the DAC for you (Like my older Creative TitaniumHD, but there are some decent newer cards that can as well). However, having an external DAC is not a bad purchase. For instance, your Modi should do the DAC conversion better, and it is always nice to get analog signals away from the computer to reduce electromagnetic interference, etc. anyway.

I just want to stress that a nice sound card can really enhance your experience when it comes to gaming. However, if you are just mostly listening to music, then a sound card really does not do a whole lot.
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Sorry for the little necro, but I just wanted to answer this question and add some advice.
You will need some RCA cables. Just go to monoprice and get the premium RCA cables, like this: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021814&p_id=2864&seq=1&format=2 . Do not bother with the really expensive cables out there, its mostly snake oil. These cables are cheap and are of decent quality.



Also, despite the arguing in this thread, I really think you should get a decent sound card. If you were just listening to music, I would absolutely agree with Tjj226 Angel and that a sound card is unnecessary. However, I thought I saw that you said you would be gaming somewhere in this thread. Sound cards are needed to do some processing before the digital-to-analog conversion. For instance, all of the surround sound processing (which is useful in gaming) is done in a sound card not a DAC. Sound cards can also allow you to manually adjust the low, mid, and high frequencies to your specific tastes (for instance you may want to turn up the bass a bit, or the upper mids if you are having trouble understanding people). Personally, I am losing some hearing in the high frequencies, so i like to boost just the high frequencies a bit to compensate. You cannot do this without a sound card (or some other audio processing device).

Most of the nicer sound cards also can do the DAC for you (Like my older Creative TitaniumHD, but there are some decent newer cards that can as well). However, having an external DAC is not a bad purchase. For instance, your Modi should do the DAC conversion better, and it is always nice to get analog signals away from the computer to reduce electromagnetic interference, etc. anyway.

I just want to stress that a nice sound card can really enhance your experience when it comes to gaming. However, if you are just mostly listening to music, then a sound card really does not do a whole lot.

Thats a much nicer way of saying what I think the other guy was trying to say.

The sound card processing though is very hit and miss.

This has been debated a lot. And I do mean.....a lot.

Some people think the processing sounds worse than regular stereo, some people think CMSS-3D is better than dolby, some people feel the opposite.

I have had an asus STX and a titanium HD before I started playing with higher end audio.

The processing to me makes everything just sound unrealistic. BF3 and skyrim sounded very echoy and just plain weird.

A good dac with excellent imaging quality has always been a reliable way to get good directional audio no matter what.
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I used to have a asus dx soundcard, with its dolby whatnot, and honestly I find soundcards useless specially if its for the "surround" thing.

I started reading Head-Fi but after a week of reading or so I came to understand that they all seem to be some stuck up ppl, cant really explain it (not a native english speaker)

But what I read if you want to be able to "change" the way the sound sounds you want a tube amps and then change tubs to your liking and that tube amps in generals sounds warmer (no idea what they mean havent owned a tube amp, yet)

I settled for a o2 + odac combo for the main reason that it was suppose to have a "neutral" sound and a pair of Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro. This setup sounds nice to ME and when I actually play games (CS:GO) with the headphones ofc you will hear if there is a enemy to your left or right.

my headphones are completly silent, I hear no hum or hizzing like you do Tjj226, but I remember reading that if you do hear such things one of the reason could be because your electrical wiring in your house is not grounded (true or not, cant say. I have never had that problem)

My speakers I use is a pair of Cerwin Vega XD4 plugged in with the soundcard that comes with the Asus ROG Gene VII. They sound good, only difference I hear on my things is mainly the bass, and that the headphones seem to feel more alive, if that makes any sense




Sound is very personal, just because what I have sounds good to ME dont mean you might like it.
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The processing to me makes everything just sound unrealistic. BF3 and skyrim sounded very echoy and just plain weird.

For a game like Skyrim, I would not use the positional processing. Any game with a lot of spoken dialogue seems to exacerbate the echo issue, and makes the characters seem like they are across a gymnasium. But I like it in games that are light on dialogue. Also, when it comes to competitive multiplayer games, I think the positional audio is helpful. However, if I am playing those same games and trying to coordinate using Vent/Skype/etc., I usually will turn it off because I do not like the effect on my friends voices. To each their own I suppose.

As far as CMSS-3D vs Dolby Headphone goes, that is another very subjective thing. I also have an Astro Mixamp (which does Dolby Headphone). I am not sure which I prefer, but I have noticed I prefer one or another depending on the game.

Sometimes I even like to turn it on when listening to certain music. For example, it i can give Tool - Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days more of a trippy effect. It can be a fun and enjoyable effect. I like having the option to do it, but overall, I almost always have it off for music. I also like Dolby Headphone for movies (even though movies are more dialogue intensive than games. My only guess is that this is due to the movies being encoded with a Dolby technology, and it handles it better somehow, but that is just a guess.)

Other than positional sound processing I really do like to be able to adjust the frequencies as a equalizer.


If I only had $200 to spend, I would have spent $100 on a Schiit or O2 amp and $100 on a sound card with a respectable DAC (give or take on the prices). It boils down to preference, but I do not think the level of difference in sound quality between a higher end sound card's DAC and a base level external DAC like the Modi outweighs the sound card's ability to use positional audio if you choose, equalizer ability, and other features a sound card gives.

That said I don't think the Modi was a bad purchase. But if I were the OP, I would also find a way to squeeze in a sound card for the processing features (but output the audio as digital so the Modi does the DAC).




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Sound is very personal, just because what I have sounds good to ME dont mean you might like it.

I really does come down to this.
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I also forgot. If you REALLY want to play around with sound processing, you could always play around with the razer surround sound program.
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I managed to pick up a cheap magni and it is what i already knew it would be, my hd 650 sound thin and underpowered on the magni
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