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Here we are again with the first official specs on the Fury. According to our industry insiders, the Radeon R9 Fury will feature 3584 Stream Processors, down from the 4096 on the full Fury X. The Fiji-based GPU will be clocked at 1050MHz, which is identical to that of the Fury X. We have 4GB of High Bandwidth Memory that provides the same 512GB/sec of bandwidth, clocked at 500MHz (1GHz effective). We are being told to expect temperatures of the Fiji PRO-based R9 Fury to be less than 75C, which is considerably higher than the 50C or so from the watercooled Fury X.

The biggest difference between the Fury and Fury X is that the Fury is air-cooled, with AIB partners able to put on their respective coolers onto the card. The other big difference is that the Fiji PRO GPU is what is powering the Fury, with 512 less Stream Processors. We shouldn't expect performance to be that much less, probably 10-15% less than Fury X. But, without that huge radiator and pump, we're going to have an impressive card to combat the GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 980 Ti.

We should expect AIB partners to begin launching their Radeon R9 Fury video cards in the coming weeks.
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The Radeon R9 Fury non-X based on Fiji PRO graphics processor sports 3584 Stream Processors, 224 Texture Mapping Units and 64 Raster Operating Units. In comparison to Radeon R9 Fury X, R9 Fury has 8 Compute Units disabled. For some reason TDP did not change, even despite downclocking engine clock to 1000 MHz (by 50 MHz).

Radeon R9 Fury is the first graphics card equipped with HBM memory to launch in custom variants. So far only two AIBs have shown their cards, which is ASUS and Sapphire. Both cards are equipped with beefy triple-fan coolers, the heat sink on Sapphire card is just enormous.

ASUS STRIX R9 Fury was used as ‘reference’ card in marketing materials, they even changed ASUS stickers to AMD. Actually, if this was indeed the reference card, I wouldn’t complain, quite a step from Volcanic Islands.

While Sapphire R9 Fury TRI-X features reference PCB, STRIX is actually is the first Fiji card equipped with custom-made PCB. Both cards feature two 8-pin power connectors.

AMD Radeon R9 Fury launches tomorrow at 8AM ET.

Source: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/46294/amds-air-cooled-radeon-r9-fury-specs-leaked/index.html

Source 2: http://videocardz.com/57177/amd-radeon-r9-fury-launches-tomorrow
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 7/9/15 at 3:33pm
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500 SPUs sounds like alot but it's only 12.5% less and from what we saw with the 7970 > 7950 and 290X > 290 the performance difference is usually lower than that. It would be an Amazing card at $500 but at $550 it should still make it an uncomfortable decision to get either 980 or 980 Ti.
Edited by th3illusiveman - 7/3/15 at 12:22pm
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I'm guessing there's no reference cooler this time? Would be a smart move.

Regardless, with that many cut shaders it doesn't stand a chance against the 980 Ti. It's also not likely to be the next R9 290 (ie. high-end price/performance king) at $550. There's both less of an absolute and a percentage-based price difference between this and the Fury X versus the 290 and 290X with a greater performance and feature disparity.

Oddly enough, Nvidia's $650 card will retain the price/performance crown above the ~$250-$350 970/290X/290 market in this case, Fury doesn't seem to undercut it.
Edited by Serandur - 7/3/15 at 12:32pm
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Fury non X needs to be like 399$ - 449$ to be interesting imho. (atleast for people that overclock their cards)

The 980 and especially 980 Ti just overclock too well. Just look at the G1 Gaming. 1550mhz. How could Fiji ever compete with that?
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500 SPUs sounds like alot but it's only 12.5% less and from what we saw with the 7970 > 7950 and 290X > 290 the performance difference is usually lower than that. It would be an Amazing card at $500 but at $550 it should still make it an uncomfortable decision to get either 980 or 980 Ti.

Everyone seems to think Fury is ROP limited. If that is so, then I don't think cutting 512 Stream Processors is going to reduce performance much at all. I am guessing around 6-10% at most.
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I'm guessing there's no reference cooler this time? Would be a smart move.

Regardless, with that many cut shaders it doesn't stand a chance against the 980 Ti. It's also not likely to be the next R9 290 (ie. high-end price/performance king) at $550. There's both less of an absolute and a percentage-based price difference between this and the Fury X versus the 290 and 290X with a greater performance and feature disparity.

Oddly enough, Nvidia's $650 card will retain the price/performance crown above the ~$250-$350 970/290X/290 market in this case, Fury doesn't seem to undercut it.

Correct, board partners are allowed to make their own coolers. Fury X will be like a Titan in the sense that it's reference only. I expect the same will be true of the dual Fiji card and the R9 Nano as well.

Cut shaders? It's only 512. That's the difference between crossfire 7950s and crossfire 7970s. That's not great, I agree, but it's not the end of the world when you remember the full die has 4096 of them. Scaling is never 100%, so expect ~90% the performance clock-for-clock. The problem of course is that the air-cooled cards probably won't hit the same frequencies as the flagship. But it's still not the end of the world and ought to be a reasonable upgrade over a 980 or 390X if a 980Ti or Fury X is not an option.

Yeah, unfortunately Fiji's price won't be low for quite some time. HBM is very new and a bit expensive. The package substrate, the interposer that allows the GPU die to communicate with the RAM dies? That's built on a 65nm process. Now, in effect it's not much more than a highly precise circuit board, but it's not exactly cheap. Stacking the VRAM dies and having the TSVs (through-silicon vias) is also expensive. The RAM dies are 256-bit wide each, with 4 dies in a stack, and with 4 stacks total. It's new tech and, while AMD hasn't revealed yields (for obvious reasons), it's safe to assume that they're worse than a GDDR5 equivalent.
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Will be interesting to see the benchmarks when they come out.
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75*c on air cooling, hopefully means quite a bit better on aftermarket air. Hopefully it clocks well as it surely will lose a good amount of performance with that much a of a SP loss. Should have just kept it the same as the Fury X at lower clocks and air cooled.. Because as I see it $550 is too much for a cut down card on a already disappointing gpu. Besides, without the water cooler the price should be cheaper regardless.

OC'ed 980 non ti's will keep up with this thing.... and still use less power. AMD failed big time IMO this round. Guess it's the unlucky 3rd, as the 7970 and 290x have done well overall to compete and surpass their competitors.

And I can guarantee you the 980 will drop to $450-$475 when this hits shelves. Yes, I'm salty.
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This is where something really needs to pan out for AMD. It either needs to have a comfortable lead over the 980 to justify the $550 price tag or be close enough to the Fury X making it essentially what a 980 Ti is to a Titan X. The silver lining in the low amount of ROPs is that shaders are probably not the bottleneck and you can cut 1/8 of them out without losing 1/8 of the performance.
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75*c on air cooling, hopefully means quite a bit better on aftermarket air. Hopefully it clocks well as it surely will lose a good amount of performance with that much a of a SP loss. Should have just kept it the same as the Fury X at lower clocks and air cooled.. Because as I see it $550 is too much for a cut down card on a already disappointing gpu. Besides, without the water cooler the price should be cheaper regardless.

OC'ed 980 non ti's will keep up with this thing.... and still use less power. AMD failed big time IMO this round. Guess it's the unlucky 3rd, as the 7970 and 290x have done well overall to compete and surpass their competitors.

And I can guarantee you the 980 will drop to $450-$475 when this hits shelves. Yes, I'm salty.

390X with 2816SP is as fast as GTX980. With 3584SP and HBM i dont see how it will not beat even Overclocked GTX980. It's not even up for discussion. It's like saying GTX770 will beat R9 290.
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