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I was just looking for some Fury and Fury X FireStrike benchmarks and I was disappointing. They are scoring 14.5-16K tops. I am that close with 290X lol. I would have expected at least 18-19K.
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I was just looking for some Fury and Fury X FireStrike benchmarks and I was disappointing. They are scoring 14.5-16K tops. I am that close with 290X lol. I would have expected at least 18-19K.
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I know. Hence why I'm waiting for next gen. I don't have as good a card as Mus1Mus or some of the others here, but mine's far better than all but the very top like theirs. Just can't see spending the cash on something that is only a hair better. rolleyes.gif
     
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If I changed 3d clock to 1200 for example, can DPM7 auto-VID support the new 3d clock?

I think you cannot put in a very high value for DPM7 Voltage like 1350 and up. And you should only use same values for both memory and GPU.

But you can add an Offset thru the BIOS. Si even without MSI AB or TriXX, you can raise the GPU Voltage.

Regarding Auto-VID, if you dont put a specific Value on the BIOS, it will always follow the GPU's programmed VID. So you need Offset for that.

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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

I was just looking for some Fury and Fury X FireStrike benchmarks and I was disappointing. They are scoring 14.5-16K tops. I am that close with 290X lol. I would have expected at least 18-19K.

Yeah. But that is just FS. Gaming might show different.
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I think you cannot put in a very high value for DPM7 Voltage like 1350 and up. And you should only use same values for both memory and GPU.

But you can add an Offset thru the BIOS. Si even without MSI AB or TriXX, you can raise the GPU Voltage.

Regarding Auto-VID, if you dont put a specific Value on the BIOS, it will always follow the GPU's programmed VID. So you need Offset for that.
Yeah. But that is just FS. Gaming might show different.

True but if you look at games and how close 390X is to Fury is not even funny. 290X and 290 also OC better in memory and Core. If you think about it going from 1250MHz to 1625MHz with 1250MHz timings is a big increase in memory performance. Maybe enough to match HBM. Yeah 290X with +200 mV will use a lot more power but if you think about it Fury cost 2 times as much.
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I asked before but didn't really get an answer.

Are you guys able to run the same clocks with the tighter timings?

I'm running the tweaked 390x hynix bios on the first page and I have noticed that I am pushing 100mhz less on this card now.
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True but if you look at games and how close 390X is to Fury is not even funny. 290X and 290 also OC better in memory and Core. If you think about it going from 1250MHz to 1625MHz with 1250MHz timings is a big increase in memory performance. Maybe enough to match HBM. Yeah 290X with +200 mV will use a lot more power but if you think about it Fury cost 2 times as much.

That's very true. And I would always go for a 290/X when I need to buy one. Or a 390.

I am really interested on how a 390 would scale with BIOS modding. But I feel like I don't need one as I cannot put waterblocks in them. I am speaking what's locally available of course.

The cheapest 390 Nitro is just a few bucks more than an MSI 290X round here.
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I asked before but didn't really get an answer.

Are you guys able to run the same clocks with the tighter timings?

I'm running the tweaked 390x hynix bios on the first page and I have noticed that I am pushing 100mhz less on this card now.

It's not about the clocks. It's all in the performance.
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I was just looking for some Fury and Fury X FireStrike benchmarks and I was disappointing. They are scoring 14.5-16K tops. I am that close with 290X lol. I would have expected at least 18-19K.

compare Firestrike extreme or ultra. we all know that Fiji perform better at higher rez.

from 7900 to 200 series is about 30% jump. it should be around the same jump from hawaii to Fiji. Again, at higher rez.

A highly oc'ed tahiti can match a stock hawaii in synthetic benchmarks not sure about gaming. of course, the vram makes a difference there.

edit: also, a stock Fury (nonX) gets 15K in graphics score i believe depending on the cpu. AMD cpus gets lower. the only way a 290X match that is if it oc's well or with an edited bios and oc.
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MSIR9GAMING.zip 198k .zip file
Hello, I have an MSI R9 290X 4G Gaming updated to the latest BIOS and tried to flash the HYNIX(cause I have HYNIX memory) MODDED 390x BIOS but when I try to install the drive I just get black screen and I have to restart, so now I am trying the STOCK version for the HYNIX memory type , but I was wondering if you guys could do a MODDED 390x version(both stock and changed) based on the MSI 290x and the MSI 390x).I'm thinking that using the values from the MSI R9 390X Gaming card would work better over the BIOS from the XFX card on my MSI R9 290X Gaming, since they're basically direct upgrades from the same provider
I have supplied over here the BIOS I initially had before flashing(latest version) as well as the MSI R9 390X 8G Gaming BIOS taken from TechPowerUp Database
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EDIT: I tested the STOCK as well and it still gives black screen when installing the AMD driver.I have returned to my default BIOS.Should I try NO MOD as well?I really don't understand why neither of the HYNIX bioses wouldn't install the driver without black screen
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It's not about the clocks. It's all in the performance.

Have you guys done any benchmarks to show increased performance with tighter timings even at lower frequencies?

I run 1150/1650 most of the time but can usually run 1175/1700 24/7.

I was crashing quickly on 1150/1650 - dropped to 1150/1600 and still crashed after a while. I'm guessung I'll have to run 1550 mhz or so which is at least 150mhz less than I used to be able to.

Do the timings make up for that much of a loss in frequency? Have you guys had a similar experience with having to lower your freq?
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compare Firestrike extreme or ultra. we all know that Fiji perform better at higher rez.

from 7900 to 200 series is about 30% jump. it should be around the same jump from hawaii to Fiji. Again, at higher rez.

A highly oc'ed tahiti can match a stock hawaii in synthetic benchmarks not sure about gaming. of course, the vram makes a difference there.

edit: also, a stock Fury (nonX) gets 15K in graphics score i believe depending on the cpu. AMD cpus gets lower. the only way a 290X match that is if it oc's well or with an edited bios and oc.

Sadly dont have a Fury to test.
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