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Originally Posted by Carniflex View Post

Hmmm ... that sounds like pretty significant QA issue. I'll have to take look at my 390X block later on before I put it on the card.

such a shame. pretty much every person I can think of when mounting a block of any form always takes off to check contact and then re-seats, how could a company specialising in cooling miss that haha
post #122 of 352
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such a shame. pretty much every person I can think of when mounting a block of any form always takes off to check contact and then re-seats, how could a company specialising in cooling miss that haha

I can quite see a scenario where this kind of thing might be missed. Like, for example, first batches being good because manufacturer used the right screws but then deciding that he will save 20 cents per block by going with a bit cheaper screws that "are basically the same". And QA involving predominantly a visual inspection of the assembled block.

Most people do not disassemble already assembled block just to see what is inside combined with the fact that while VRM temps might be not as low as they should be they are still in "good enough" region and this kind of stuff can linger for a while before people find out. Now that this has been found out, however, I'd imagine quite many people start disassembling theirs to see if they have this issue or not. Then this ball rolls for a while until it's large enough and then Alphacool might issue a statement how they improved their QA processes to make sure that kind of stuff does not happen anymore. Or they switch into using thermal pads instead or something. Would probably be cheaper to countersunk the screw heads properly than to use the pads tho wink.gif

In my experience Alphacool seems to have some issues with first revisions of their hardware QA or feature set wise, however, they are pretty quick to revise the designs or QA processes to take care of issues found by their users. Take, for example, the first revision of their DC-LT 5.25'' plexi res (back-plate issues, wrong O-Ring for second pump, etc) and the DC-LT pump itself (no rpm wire, wrong O-ring for bay res, a bit loud on 3600 rpm). Both of which got a second revision within some months of initial release. I'm note sure if they are different company than Phoyba - Phoyba seems to be similar in this regard but I have had somewhat less Phoyba branded stuff (other than their fans) so I can't really generalize for them similarly. Then again my Alphacool sample set is also statistically not significant. Three DC-LT pumps, three plexi tops, one 5.25'' bay res, few GPU blocks out of which the ones I noted had some "issues". I have not yet looked into my GPX block for 390X, if it has the same issue then that can be added to the list of "issues" as well I guess wink.gif
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post #123 of 352
Seems like many of these blocks have QC issues. I refunded mine because of a thermal pad of the wrong thickness. To this day I haven't heard back from alphacool if that was an isolated incident or if all coolers with that model # have the same problem.

Most users just wouldn't notice if they don't monitor their VRM temps nor take a very close look at the block.
post #124 of 352
I've sent them an email with the pics.

as said above, normal i wouldnt of check the mounting between then block and plate, only my own seating i would of checked .

I hope any Team Red users check that check the seating will post up there VRM temps before and after. would just be nice to see if there is an improvement
post #125 of 352
Mine could have used a little more paste TBH but there definitely was some contact between the block and the aluminum plate.




I'll probably unscrew it again when I get around to installing that block and apply a generous squirt of additional paste. That block on the picture is 390 M04 (for Gigabyte G1 390X card).
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post #126 of 352
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Originally Posted by Carniflex View Post

Mine could have used a little more paste TBH but there definitely was some contact between the block and the aluminum plate.




I'll probably unscrew it again when I get around to installing that block and apply a generous squirt of additional paste. That block on the picture is 390 M04 (for Gigabyte G1 390X card).

I reseated with more paste and screwed counter angles and finally got better contact, also...
Teaser shots. Just need to drill the inlet and outlet ports. Then do it all over again
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post #127 of 352
^^^ Very cool, looks great! Interested to see how it performs.
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Alphacool got the pics and i have sent them the link to this thread.

Think about it, we sell a few hunder of those coolers per month, sure you will finde a few cooler wich are not 100% perfect. If you find some problems, sent them back and get a new one. wink.gif
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Alphacool got the pics and i have sent them the link to this thread.

Think about it, we sell a few hunder of those coolers per month, sure you will finde a few cooler wich are not 100% perfect. If you find some problems, sent them back and get a new one. wink.gif

Will receive my second one on friday, if its the same thats 100% fault issue , and would bring 3 issues with the 970 M07 version. Specially at a high cost I thought a quick quality control would be in line.
And I bought both my blocks from yourself.

I also found a problem with the mounting and un-mounting of the backplate to the heat-sink. From my pics above I loosely had the screwed tightened to take pictures of the mock up. When i unscrewed the backplate, the turning of the screw has cause to 2 nuts that where screwed to the heat-sink to come off. I've lost one as i didn't realise that it had come off and the second one is locked between the the sink and the board and will take a lot of force to remove the screw/backplate to disassemble the how thing.
I actually thought the nuts on the heat-sink would be either milled and tapped or were bounded to the sink.

so any users be aware if you have to take the unit apart!!!!! if you've tightened the screws to much, you'll unscrew the nut from the heat-sink, then then when you continue to turn the screw the nut just rotates and you can't free the back plate off. Some how i'll have to find a very small pliers to hold the nut whilst i can unscrew and free the screw/backplate

will take pics at lunch
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Gutted as i mis-measured the inlet and outlet holes, tried to correct and made is worse so had to cut a square out.
Will be using thick 16/10mm (3/8", 5/8") tubing along with Monsoon 90s and chain-gun fittings so help that will hide the cut out, and should glow red a bit from the LEDs.



will get the 2nd card spot on ! and will use the card above in the bottom slot.
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