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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

The most I ever paid was $600 for intel cpus.
For some people, 600$ is the entire system.
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Originally Posted by ku4eto View Post

For some people, 600$ is the entire system.

too true, I would say it's true for most of the general public who aren't computer enthusiasts


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Originally Posted by jclafi View Post

Dude why be so harsh with the AMD enthusiast ?

AMD have a CPU line for overclockers and the man is one.

A clear target ($$$$) for the company yes, but AMD did care with overclockers, and dont ask a arm and leg for a K version. (For now)

The FX chips are dogs really difficult to kill. Can handle very high clocks. Tons of Fun !!

That´s the point, so difficult to you to understand and accept?

Actually YOU lost all credibility as soon as you typed that statement, mister.


thanks, that is basically what I meant
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Originally Posted by 7850K View Post

if bulldozer modules don't count as 2 cores than conjoined twins only count as 1 person.

Reading that made me wonder if twins have problems handling decimal math both at the same time. Heehee.

Remember, 128 bits at a time children.
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I bought the Athlon waaaaay back in the day from Mwave for my first build. I've had a couple intels since but I always go back to AMD. The price point really cant be beat. And there is that whole monopoly thing as well. Without AMD (and vise versa) our CPUs would be underpowered and over priced.
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I bought the Athlon waaaaay back in the day from Mwave for my first build. I've had a couple intels since but I always go back to AMD. The price point really cant be beat. And there is that whole monopoly thing as well. Without AMD (and vise versa) our CPUs would be underpowered and over priced.

Our CPUs are underpowered and overpriced.

Now, without one or the other company being around, you could claim they would be MORE underpowered and overpriced, but you don't really know that for certain. It is just as likely that someone *cough* IBM *cough* Samsung *cough* would step in to take the lost company's place and actually return real competition to the market, or that a powerful government (US, EU, etc) would force a corporate breakup similar to what happened with Bell.
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Our CPUs are underpowered and overpriced.
sorry if you got burned by your 980X but the statement confuses me. My CPU was only $74 and has more than enough power. Sandy and newer Intels, while debatably overpriced, certainly aren't underpowered
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sorry if you got burned by your 980X but the statement confuses me. My CPU was only $74 and has more than enough power. Sandy and newer Intels, while debatably overpriced, certainly aren't underpowered

When your CPU is only 5-10% faster than a similar-tier CPU made 5 years ago, it is under powered. The fact that we live in a generation where software is lackluster and doesn't demand much doesn't mean our CPUs are actually strong for 2015.

I shouldn't be able to still be rocking a 980X all these years later without seriously hating myself or being a luddite. The only reason I can even run modern software is because no significantly stronger CPUs have been released since.

Just look at the 5 year period between 2000 and 2005. We went from 32 bit Pentium 3s running at 900MHZ to 64 bit Athlon 64 FXs running at 2.4GHZ.

PC games went from this:



to this:



All because they were capable of taking advantage of new hardware that was so much more powerful than what came before it.

We could have "another FEAR" or "another CRYSIS" today, but unlike those titles that pushed boundaries but were still capable of running smoothly on high end contemporary hardware, today's version wouldn't be able to run smooth until 2025 due to our snail's pace of hardware advancement.

So yes, our CPUs are indeed underpowered, and yet we're paying more for the same tier every generation lately, which also makes them overpriced.
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When your CPU is only 5-10% faster than a similar-tier CPU made 5 years ago, it is under powered. The fact that we live in a generation where software is lackluster and doesn't demand much doesn't mean our CPUs are actually strong for 2015.

I shouldn't be able to still be rocking a 980X all these years later without seriously hating myself or being a luddite. The only reason I can even run modern software is because no significantly stronger CPUs have been released since.

Just look at the 5 year period between 2000 and 2005. We went from 32 bit Pentium 3s running at 900MHZ to 64 bit Athlon 64 FXs running at 2.4GHZ.

PC games went from this:



to this:



All because they were capable of taking advantage of new hardware that was so much more powerful than what came before it.

We could have "another FEAR" or "another CRYSIS" today, but unlike those titles that pushed boundaries but were still capable of running smoothly on high end contemporary hardware, today's version wouldn't be able to run smooth until 2025 due to our snail's pace of hardware advancement.

So yes, our CPUs are indeed underpowered, and yet we're paying more for the same tier every generation lately, which also makes them overpriced.

Just because you don't understand what's going on doesn't mean the market is wrong. 14nm Has had some serious problems and has been delayed for over a year. Do you think subsequent shrinks are going to be easier?

We've been stuck on 28nm video chips because neither TSMC nor GloFo could overcome 20nm production problems. Even Intel skipped it and they're all, together with Samsung, going to 14. What comes next is the question because we're hitting the limits of traditional silicone fast. We could easily be on 14 or 10 for a very long time. If they could eternally shrink Samsung wouldn't have moved to stacking their dies and back to 55nm.
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It was President Carter who got the ball rolling with Ma Bell and the only contender who is willing to try something like that is Bernie Sanders. It's a long shot.

I can see where you get your opinion about price VS performance. It really is time for you to upgrade to an FX system. Here are a few comparisons from the charts and what my 8370 is doing.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=866&cmp[]=2014
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780
http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=44327264919

Note the single thread performance rating.
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Can you even build a high end gaming rig with AMD anymore? I go AMD because I am just a fanboy, plain and simple.
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