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Maybe neither company is actively on the side of us consumers, but intel IS actively working against us while AMD is being neutral.
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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

Intel can afford to sell less unlocked chips. They have a better reputation, and their chips generally do just fine without any overclocking.

AMD... well you NEED that overclock to make them worth it. AMD isn't dumb. They know they aren't in a position where they can afford to remove features and tell customers to "just deal with it" like Intel can.

Neither company is on your side. They don't have your back or care about you. It is just business. Right now it is in Intel's best interest to milk mainstream customers and max performance enthusiasts, and in AMD's to offer a superior value per dollar to overclocking enthusiasts and budget rig builders. Wish it weren't so, but it is.

Well said..

I agree that neither company cares about us and it's all about making a buck, that's why they are both it the game.
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I want to use an AMD CPU because I love PC hardware.

I enjoy tinkering and benching within the areas of PC gaming I enjoy the most.

With that said I use a little of everything and find overclocking AMD fun but a bad value when you consider the board and cooler necessary to get to the better end of their performance.
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Right now I use an 8320 (4.6ghz) because of the cost and it does everything I need it to.

A little over a month ago I needed a new car, and needed some extra cash for a down payment. I sold my nice i7 rig w/ custom loop, got my car and took what was left over (800) and put together an FX system with r9 290. Its my 3rd 8320, clocks well and runs relatively cool on air (50c load @ 4.6 w/ 1.37v), and Im honestly only seeing a small % decrease in performance vs my old intel system.

For the games I play and netflix its all I really need at the moment. Figure I will wait for Zen and see what happens.
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why do i prefer amd over intel?

mostly it has to do with the fun of playing around with amd chips. intels are fairly straight forward when it comes to overclocking, just increase the hertz. But intel CPU's dont really benefit that much from playing around with HTT speeds or ram timings, things of that nature hardly at all.

there is also the fact that intel chips crypto is shall we say.... is not real crypto.

you can (despite what all the fanbois say) also get alot more value out of amd chips. Intel has nothing in the quad core or 8 thread realm that is cheap and unlocked at all. also intel forces motherboard upgrades if you want the latest and greatest. im running an FX9590 on a rev 1 saberkitty just fine with low volts (1.416v for 5ghz).

I will probably upgrade at some point but i will need to see something that comes close to doubling the performance of my current setup and neither intel nor AMD have anything short of a server board setup.
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I want to use an AMD CPU because I love PC hardware.

I enjoy tinkering and benching within the areas of PC gaming I enjoy the most.

With that said I use a little of everything and find overclocking AMD fun but a bad value when you consider the board and cooler necessary to get to the better end of their performance.


I have to disagree with you on the "bad value" proposition. If I am buying an Intel rig and buying a top flight unlocked i5 or i7 I sure as heck am going to buy a real nice board and a really nice cooler. It will still be a good deal more expensive than a AMD rig. Intel boosters are always saying you don't need an expensive board or cooler. Then you read their signatures and everyone has $150+ boards and expensive closed loop coolers. I mean who in their right mind buys a cpu that costs $250+ and then uses a $75 motherboard?
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I mean who in their right mind buys a cpu that costs $250+ and then uses a $75 motherboard?
People that want to make a point or noobs on reddit that pair that combo with a gtx750ti.
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I mean who in their right mind buys a cpu that costs $250+ and then uses a $75 motherboard?

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Maybe neither company is actively on the side of us consumers, but intel IS actively working against us while AMD is being neutral.

How is intel working against us in any way? Going down that parth AMD is even more against the consumer because they can't seem to compete and offer us a new proper processor in how many years now? Seriously, Vishera was released in 2012, Zen is slated for 2017. That is a 5 year gap people, and at best what people predict is that it will likely perform similar to ivy bridge, a chip released in 2012... So here we are, the people who choose to go the performance route, getting likely better performance than an unreleased AMD's cpu that is getting overly hyped. Reminds me of the bulldozer fiasco, and trust me, I'm watching this from the sidelines.

I cannot justify AMD anymore. I did over a decade of only AMD parts, and the promises, let alone failed products that have come since, have made me switch and become really weary of any future AMD products. It will take a lot to make me switch back on the cpu front.
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You have a very selective memory. Here, let me refresh it. Read this thread again. Intel's anti competitive actions are well documented and continue to this day. http://www.overclock.net/t/1554359/reddit-amd-sabotage-wiki

There are other examples sprinkled all around this forum. The latest is about how DX12 is gimped for AMD by SSE usage.

My 8370 has tested out to be overall not as powerful as a 5820k, equal to a 4970k, and better than a 6700k. Its slower single thread performance is made up with better performance in other areas like integers and physics. And its single thread performance isn't bad, just not as good as the better intels with the 4970k being the very best at that.
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