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You should look into the FM2+ CPUs. I built a A10 7850K based rig that is running at 4.2 ghz that has a single tower cooler (Arctic Cooling A30) that is totally silent. It is eerie as the only way to know if it is running is to look at the monitor.
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My motherboard supports CPU FM2 / FM2 +, I take this into consideration when buying. Question in price and availability of money, and this is necessary or not. The game industry does not interest me.

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4 primary reasons

1. Because for what I do on my main gaming PC - GAMING! and only games I like... my fav is resticted to 60 FPS so..... and with newer consoles today like PS4 etc.. using AMD's jaguar architecture and radeon graphics, I think the extending of this to PC platform will have benefits for those of us on AMD setups...

2. The limitations of my current monitor technology eg. refresh rate and its relation to frames per second. Besides that, one you get past a certain point, the average human eye can't detect any higher anyway... so it becomes an academic argument anyway how high one can go with FPS..

3. AMD's APU concept is fascinating and interests me greatly... something Intel haven't done yet??

4. Budget restrictions... yes, more things in life than upgrading computer hardware all the time...lol... biggrin.gif which brings up the value for money argument...

Also, as a side note... I got off the Intel bandwagon after socket 1156 became redundant... invested in a 1st gen i7 and then the schmucks get shifty and decide to change sockets and thus chipsets AGAIN!!!! that after relative longevity of LGA775 scenario...
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4 primary reasons

1. Because for what I do on my main gaming PC - GAMING! and only games I like... my fav is resticted to 60 FPS so..... and with newer consoles today like PS4 etc.. using AMD's jaguar architecture and radeon graphics, I think the extending of this to PC platform will have benefits for those of us on AMD setups...

2. The limitations of my current monitor technology eg. refresh rate and its relation to frames per second. Besides that, one you get past a certain point, the average human eye can't detect any higher anyway... so it becomes an academic argument anyway how high one can go with FPS..

3. AMD's APU concept is fascinating and interests me greatly... something Intel haven't done yet??

4. Budget restrictions... yes, more things in life than upgrading computer hardware all the time...lol... biggrin.gif which brings up the value for money argument...

Also, as a side note... I got off the Intel bandwagon after socket 1156 became redundant... invested in a 1st gen i7 and then the schmucks get shifty and decide to change sockets and thus chipsets AGAIN!!!! that after relative longevity of LGA775 scenario...

Even s775 had several revisions. The first 775's were unable to run Core 2 chips. The second wasn't able to run Core 2 Quads and that isn't even mentioning the several revisions 775 underwent during the Netburst era.
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

I was browsing around Newegg for kicks, when I decided to see which CPUs were considered top-rated... the results are surprising.





'nuff said. thumb.gif


That doesn't surprise me. What hurts AMD is that they have pretty low margins on their processors. What they need very badly are some OEM design wins.
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That doesn't surprise me. What hurts AMD is that they have pretty low margins on their processors. What they need very badly are some OEM design wins.

its actually because they've designed their processors to be physically humongous, manufacturing cost of a processor is dependent on how many you can fit in a single wafer.

AMD Bulldozer 8C = 32nm / 1.2B transistors / 315mm²
AMD Piledriver 8C = 32nm / 1.2B transistors / 315mm²

Intel Sandy Bridge i7 = 32nm / 995M transistors / 216mm²
Intel Ivy Bridge i7 = 22nm / 1.4B transistors / 160mm²

while look at intel, they strive to make their chips physically smaller, now they milk us with massive margins (just look at how much cheaper xeon chips are).
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I see no reason to consider upgrade until performance takes a leap forward. I may build a 6core 12 thread video editing rig next year but for general use AMD fx8 is fine
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Hi guys, this thread is meant for AMD fans.

I am just curious to know what are you folks sticking to AMD CPU (or GPU)?

I upgraded from an FX-6300 overclcoked to an E3-1226 v3. I don't regret it for an instant. Actually, my only regret was that I was too cocky to pay close attention to the specs sheet - E3-1226 tier and below don't have Hyperthreading. doh.gif $30 more would have upgraded my "i5" to an "i7" in effect.

Eh, whatever, it has 2MiB more L3 than an i5. That makes up for everything, right? rolleyes.gif


As for why I now own a Godavari APU, there's a ton of reasons.

  1. Price. $140 bought me AMD's flagship APU. Two Steamroller modules alongside eight GCN 1.1 compute units with a soldered IHS. Not too bad. On the other hand, Intel's only better option, Broadwell-C, costs twice or three times as much, depending on which SKU I get. That is fair, in my opinion, given what goes into those chips (eDRAM die and a large 14nm CPU die), but it's just not worth it when the alternative is that good a value.
  2. The competition. The A10 and A8 tier APUs are directly competing with Intel's i3 line, and to some degree the Pentium and i5 lines as well. And they suck. Don't get me wrong, the CPUs are phenomenal. But have you seen their GPUs?! AMD is twice as fast in terms of floating-point performance.
  3. The drivers. I know, I know, AMD is the butt of jokes when it comes to this. But have you seen Intel's GPU drivers? They're pretty deplorable. The only reason Iris Pro beats Spectre (Kaveri's iGPU) is because of a 100GB/s aggregate L4 cache. GT3 graphics, using that same iGPU but without the L4, aren't much better than the GT2 graphics found in desktop CPUs.
  4. Availability. Broadwell does not exist. As far as I can tell, it is an illusion. No stock on the i5-5675C or the i7-5775C whatsoever, to say nothing of any Xeon bar the D-1540. I'd much prefer either of those over Godavari, but if they were available, I probably wouldn't have even bothered. The complete Godavari system is like $500, with about $200 worth being fixed costs (power, boot drive, 90% the RAM, and case). A Broadwell-C system would be easily $700 (closer to $500 for the CPU and motherboard plus the aforementioned $200) and would "only" be an APU build.

AMD makes good APUs. Intel's approach seems to be brute-force. They don't really seem to have a good GPU architecture and their drivers suck.

Here's hoping to HBM APUs soon. That DDR3 bottleneck is very real and very crippling.
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Broadwell is now on Newegg... But not an upgrade IMO...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117554

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117553

I don't see the point, honestly. Skylake is superior in almost every way.

However... this thread is not about Broadwell, Skylake, Greatlake, Land O'lake, or milkshake... It's about AMD.

*cough* back to AMD... *cough*
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