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My only problem with 1st Gen FX is that you have a good chance of getting one of the Heatware chips. Even this long after launch.

My brother got his FX8320 before last July 2014 and his chip is a heater. Even after I've gone and cleaned out all the dust bunnies from his 932. He's got an XFX r7770 under it and while that may be causing some of the issue, I'm doubtful about that due to the 140 blowing fresh air from in front while Intaking fresh air from the bottom of his case which is a CM HAF932. His cooler is nothing to write home about as it's a Hyper 515 I think but with so many fans blowing around it, there is no way he should be seeing 59c while Folding at Medium duty. Full it runs at 61c. Before I cleaned the bunnies out, his temp easily hit 65c which would cause his system to complain and ask for the mandatory shutdown.

I'm on him to RMA it but he really doesn't want to be down 2 weeks from request to reinstallation. rolleyes.gif

They're reasonable chips they just have had their issues. smile.gif

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My only problem with 1st Gen FX is that you have a good chance of getting one of the Heatware chips. Even this long after launch.

My brother got his FX8320 before last July 2014 and his chip is a heater. Even after I've gone and cleaned out all the dust bunnies from his 932. He's got an XFX r7770 under it and while that may be causing some of the issue, I'm doubtful about that due to the 140 blowing fresh air from in front while Intaking fresh air from the bottom of his case which is a CM HAF932. His cooler is nothing to write home about as it's a Hyper 515 I think but with so many fans blowing around it, there is no way he should be seeing 59c while Folding at Medium duty. Full it runs at 61c. Before I cleaned the bunnies out, his temp easily hit 65c which would cause his system to complain and ask for the mandatory shutdown.

I'm on him to RMA it but he really doesn't want to be down 2 weeks from request to reinstallation. rolleyes.gif

They're reasonable chips they just have had their issues. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I'm betting its a hyper 212, they aren't the best choice for an 8 core FX. Is your brother running an Asrock board?
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One reason and one reason only.

Price vs performance.
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My only problem with 1st Gen FX is that you have a good chance of getting one of the Heatware chips. Even this long after launch.

My brother got his FX8320 before last July 2014 and his chip is a heater. Even after I've gone and cleaned out all the dust bunnies from his 932. He's got an XFX r7770 under it and while that may be causing some of the issue, I'm doubtful about that due to the 140 blowing fresh air from in front while Intaking fresh air from the bottom of his case which is a CM HAF932. His cooler is nothing to write home about as it's a Hyper 515 I think but with so many fans blowing around it, there is no way he should be seeing 59c while Folding at Medium duty. Full it runs at 61c. Before I cleaned the bunnies out, his temp easily hit 65c which would cause his system to complain and ask for the mandatory shutdown.

I'm on him to RMA it but he really doesn't want to be down 2 weeks from request to reinstallation. rolleyes.gif

They're reasonable chips they just have had their issues. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I'm betting its a hyper 212, they aren't the best choice for an 8 core FX. Is your brother running an Asrock board?

Nope. ASUS Sabertooth. He did run my Hyper 212+ but after my Ma's system went feet up he shifter his old board and my 212 over to her system with my 1055t and upgraded to the FX8320. So I know it's not the 212. It has two 92mm fans one fore and one aft. Hyper 212 comes with a 120mm fan. I know that much. It might be a 545 maybe?

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Indeed.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780

When OCed to 5 ghz it exceeds every other CPU on that list.
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My only problem with 1st Gen FX is that you have a good chance of getting one of the Heatware chips. Even this long after launch.

My brother got his FX8320 before last July 2014 and his chip is a heater. Even after I've gone and cleaned out all the dust bunnies from his 932. He's got an XFX r7770 under it and while that may be causing some of the issue, I'm doubtful about that due to the 140 blowing fresh air from in front while Intaking fresh air from the bottom of his case which is a CM HAF932. His cooler is nothing to write home about as it's a Hyper 515 I think but with so many fans blowing around it, there is no way he should be seeing 59c while Folding at Medium duty. Full it runs at 61c. Before I cleaned the bunnies out, his temp easily hit 65c which would cause his system to complain and ask for the mandatory shutdown.

I'm on him to RMA it but he really doesn't want to be down 2 weeks from request to reinstallation. rolleyes.gif

They're reasonable chips they just have had their issues. smile.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I'm betting its a hyper 212, they aren't the best choice for an 8 core FX. Is your brother running an Asrock board?

Nope. ASUS Sabertooth. He did run my Hyper 212+ but after my Ma's system went feet up he shifter his old board and my 212 over to her system with my 1055t and upgraded to the FX8320. So I know it's not the 212. It has two 92mm fans one fore and one aft. Hyper 212 comes with a 120mm fan. I know that much. It might be a 545 maybe?

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Probably the 520 then. I'm surprised it would run that warm on the 520 unless it's overclocked. I have the 620 as a point of reference.
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Yeah he isn't into Clocking... yet. biggrin.gif

He set his UEFI to stock settings.

When I cleaned his case (admonished him later for it) I replaced his 230 exhaust with the old door fan that he shelved when he got the AMD Dragon bay door after cleaning that and installed that as Intake. I also cleaned and lubed a Yate Loon Blue LED 120 High Speed he had on his shelf which was sticking pretty good til I lubed it and replaced a CM sickleflow that had seen better days. The PWM was toast in that. All the fan wanted to do is bump and not spool up at all. The YL went in the bottom as Intake and the front and rear 140s were gone over thoroughly with canned air. Temps went down but not enough to where it should be running imho. I've had to RMA a couple of the 1st Gen FX chips as they simply could not handle even minutes of F@H which I use to stress every build I put together. At least his chip is stable but it's not up to snuff.

I like AMD but they didn't do themselves justice imho. thumb.gif

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Yeah he isn't into Clocking... yet. biggrin.gif

He set his UEFI to stock settings.

When I cleaned his case (admonished him later for it) I replaced his 230 exhaust with the old door fan that he shelved when he got the AMD Dragon bay door after cleaning that and installed that as Intake. I also cleaned and lubed a Yate Loon Blue LED 120 High Speed he had on his shelf which was sticking pretty good til I lubed it and replaced a CM sickleflow that had seen better days. The PWM was toast in that. All the fan wanted to do is bump and not spool up at all. The YL went in the bottom as Intake and the front and rear 140s were gone over thoroughly with canned air. Temps went down but not enough to where it should be running imho. I've had to RMA a couple of the 1st Gen FX chips as they simply could not handle even minutes of F@H which I use to stress every build I put together. At least his chip is stable but it's not up to snuff.

I like AMD but they didn't do themselves justice imho. thumb.gif

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The only FX I have that is a bit ridiculous to cool is my 9370, the others run relatively cool until you go past the voltage wall at 4.7 ghz or so.

Folding will find the weakness in your cooling , that's for sure. I had a C2 965 @ 4ghz pushing 4870x2's in quadfire and folded with them for a couple months...... it was a 1000 watt space heater- lol
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Lol. I heard that. biggrin.gif

But if it cannot Fold Medium before dusting or with a stock cooler and no other programs save for background AV under 65c, there is something wrong with the chip. I've got more than a few stock coolers laying around that I lapped for shiggles. I've used one on my 955 BE that I lapped and it kept my chip at near 40c under load with a minor clock on it. Granted it won't keep an unmodified 8 core at that temp but it could stop his chip from going above 60c. I expect that chip to run mid 50c with a lapped cooler plate atop it. If it cannot do that well... biggrin.gif

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Well, I switch my work machine from the 8320 to my FX 8350 that I removed from my home computer. (I upgraded to a I7 6700K and am very please with it. thumb.gif) I heavily multitask at work since I am in IT and I cannot afford to upgrade both computers at the same time. If Zen does not work out, I will go with a Skylake E 5820k equivalent at work. My FX processors have done a great job for me and the I7 6700k is the most I have spent on a processor since the Pentium Overdrive back in 94.

I stuck with AMD for 15 years since that is what I wanted to use and it worked well. However, they have nothing to upgrade to and my chips were just overclocking duds. If I could have gotten 4.8 to 5 Ghz, I would have stuck with the 8350. However, I just could not get better than 4.4Ghz because of weak cores at 7 and 8. frown.gif Up until now, that is stayed with AMD because I was happy with them.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8300 Asus 970 Pro Aura Sapphire R9 Fury Nitro Sapphire R9 Fury Tri X 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1866 Sandisk 1TB SSD Seagate 1TB 7200 RPM Seagate 1TB 7200 RPM 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Sandisk 1TB SSD Noctua NH-D15 Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit Samsung 4K 28inch Monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Mechanical Keyboard Thermaltake Smart SP-850M Cooler Master Master Case 5 Logitech G602 
Audio
5.1 Logitech Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 8350 4.2GHz MSI 970 Gaming XFX R9 380 4G Sapphire DDR3 32GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Bulletproof SSD Seagate 500GB Hybrid drive Western Digital Green Standard DVD Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit 27 Inch LCD Planar 24 inch LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech K700 Thermaltake 650 Watt Corsair R300 Logitech G602 
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Standard 2.1 speakers 
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