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This is true shilka. I went with a 650w simply for the little bit of extra head room just in case.
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Alright, I'm hearing 16 year old kid so why not appeal to some adolescent sensibilities.
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AMD Athlon II X3 455 3.3
Gigabyte GA-970A UD3P (this replaced original bad board a year ago by salesman recomendation)
Mushkin Silverline PC3-12800 9-9-9-24 2X4gb (father in law donation)
Radeon 6700 1 gb video card
Antec 500w ps
Antec Illusion 300 case

I reused the cd rom drive in the new machine. This machine was built at Christmas 2011 or 2012 I think.

The 16 yr old has Windows 8, and that is all.

Another friend will sell his evga 780 super clocked for a good price, but I know it will need a bigger ps and probably case.

if I'm up to speed on where the budget is you have $750 - ~$150 for gpu leaving $600 for a new cpu, psu, cooler, storage, monitor(s) keyboard, mouse, probably headset for good measure.

cpu your best bet is probably an FX-6300 or FX-8320. I've seen the 6300 for as low as $97 on amazon so we'll go with that for now: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fx-6300

$500 left

Psu: I'd grab somewhere in the 550-650 range. I like the xfx ts series http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207034&cm_re=xfx_ts_650w-_-17-207-034-_-Product . If you want to shop around though there's a great thread for helping you find a quality psu in your budget on the site: http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies. you can just scroll down to the wattage you want and start googling psu's until you find one that fits the budget. Assuming you stick with my recommendation we'll call what you spent $80.

$420

Storage assuming you still have all your hardware (sata cables, screws, etc.) I'd just grab a cheap bare drive either a Western Digital Blue or a Seagate Barracuda, aim for 7200rpm and 500gb-1TB storage. Usually you can grab a good deal on a refurbished drive like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178366&cm_re=bare_hdd-_-22-178-366-_-Product well go ahead and assumed you dropped $45 because that's about standard price range if you shop for a deal, idk if you have qualms about buying refurbished because I know some people do.

$375


Now at this point I think it's important to take into account who this is for. Assuming this kid is your basic user (and since you're building this and not him I'm guessing that's a safe bet) and a 16 year old guy you might as well go for the wow factor over silence and benchmarks. He's going to notice 1. how well games look/perform. 2. How cool it looks 3. how well it handles everything else. game performance is a check with your current cpu/gpu setup but for him to notice peripherals are big.

Monitor: For now, since this is a budget build, I'd probably go with a monitor somewhere in the 19" - 22" range. He can always get a better/bigger one later on and it'll be a simple upgrade he can handle himself. The important things to remember if you want to shop around yourself are 1920x1080 resolution (full HD), latency ~5ms, and 60hz or better (to get that full 60fps experience). this one is pretty popular and decently priced : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009316

$255 left


Keyboard/Mouse/Headset: Eric's suggestions
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Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
is a pretty good deal, you can check on amazon and find multiple backlight colors so he can pick out the one he wants. I'd probably throw a headset in just for practical purposes if he's gaming, I have this set: http://www.amazon.com/SA-708-Stereo-Headphone-Headset-Microphone/dp/B00DU2CHE2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437236632&sr=8-1&keywords=headset. Normally I'm against cheap headphones but I've had this set for coming up on a year and they still work fine and the sound/mic quality is definitely on par for the price range. Headset+keyboard+mouse 18+28 = $46 for i/o hardware.

That leaves you $210 of budget to play with, upgrades that I'd probably suggest given the end user include:

  • an aftermarket cpu cooler. He'll probably be fine with the stock one but it will be louder and less effective than an aftermarket. most popular is probably Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo ~$35 dollars
  • basic speakers
  • A small ssd to run os off of (this would probably be my first choice of upgrade as he'll notice huge differences in boot speed and basic applications) You can get a 120gb Sandisk ssd on amazon for 50 bucks. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B007ZW2LY4/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1437237351&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+128gb+ssd&condition=new I think with that case you'll need a 2.5 to 3.5 bracket for it to fit, but those are like 10-15 dollars.
  • Potentially letting him pick out a new case so it looks how he wants, as an ex-teenage guy I'm willing to bed he'll appreciate the bling factor. on a related note led case fans run like $8-$15 a pop and will also add visual flair that's good bang for your buck.
  • another 2x4gb ram kit in case he wants to do streaming/photoshop/video editing/etc.
  • or upgrades to any of the above parts: better keyboard/mouse/headset, larger monitor, bigger hdd, etc.

If i were you I'd talk to him about what he's looking to do and based off his input go from there, but I think that's a pretty solid framework to work in that'll leave him happy when it's all said and done
Edited by beowin - 7/18/15 at 10:09am
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^^^ nice post, the only thing I would mention is a video card (he is going to need a better video card then that radeon 6700 imo.
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In an earlier post he said a friend had a gtx 780 he'd sell him for like $150 that I factored in, if not I'd probably suggest an r9 270x/280 for something in a similar price range. Honestly if the 780 fell through and I had the cash leftover at the end that he will I'd just slap a gtx 970 in there and call it a day.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320E 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor ($109.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($0.00)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($0.00)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.29 @ Other World Computing)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC E2260SWDN 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $500.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-19 01:44 EDT-0400
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I like where Beowin and P4inKill3r went,

The XFX TS 550 is a good PSU, if Newegg is where you order from get the XFX 650W (Model TS3X), the extra power won't matter but it comes out cheaper after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207034&cm_re=XFX_ts_650-_-17-207-034-_-Product

8320/8320E + 212 EVO is more than enough power for a budget game build, I'm sure it will be light years ahead of what he uses now and the cooler is perfect for a little OC.

The GTX 780 is fine, so is a 270X, but right now my best recommendation for ultra low price rigs is to buy a used AMD 7950 or 7970 via ebay, more power and it will come in at around $90 (7950) to $120 (7970), This is if best quality gaming is the priority, both cards are quite a bit better than a 780 or 270x. Totally optional here though, all of them are fine for 1080P gaming.

Just an example, ends in 9 hours only at $80
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NO-RESERVE-Sapphire-AMD-Radeon-HD-7950-11196-16-20G-3-GB-3-GB-max-GDDR5-/181805234502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a546fb946

For storage, I don't suggest the 250gb if this is for games, he's going to just fill it right up and need more. Get the 1TB WD blue, barely a couple more bucks and 4x the space..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339&cm_re=western_digital_1tb_blue-_-22-236-339-_-Product

If you go with the used GPU and save a few bucks, you can consider getting him a 128GB ssd for windows, or a nicer case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233783&cm_re=corsair_force_LS-_-20-233-783-_-Product -- 128 GB Corsair Force LS

or cases, just going to list the ones the younger guys usually pick out when I build for them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153&cm_re=Rosewill_challenger-_-11-147-153-_-Product Rosewill Challenger
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147237&cm_re=Rosewill_challenger-_-11-147-237-_-Product Rosewill Challenger S
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353034 - Ranger R8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156303 Viper GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146077 NZXT Source 210
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@Painkiller...where in earth are you finding the 8320e for under $110? Your link shows a very different price. Was that a 1 day flash sale or something? If so that was an amazing price.

Ps...according to the price tracker on that page, that product has never been below $120 baring discounts or sales. Im guessing $109 was a typo?
Edited by gapottberg - 7/19/15 at 7:55am
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@Painkiller...where in earth are you finding the 8320e for under $110? Your link shows a very different price. Was that a 1 day flash sale or something? If so that was an amazing price.

Ps...according to the price tracker on that page, that product has never been below $120 baring discounts or sales. Im guessing $109 was a typo?
That's how much they cost at Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294965455/AMD-Processors
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Thanks guys. I think we are definitely on the right track for his budget. I talked with his dad, and he told me he wants to play League of legends, elder scrolls, arma, stranded deep, call of duty. Not sure what these games demand, and he understands with this budget, he may have to lower the resolution depending on the card he gets. The guy that has the 780 has not sent it off yet to be checked and will be out of town for another week. The 16 yr old is chomping at the bit the to get this going because he has been saving his money from his job he got a couple months ago. I have a first generation intel ssd I thought about giving him for his OS, but he may be better off with getting a newer technology cheap ssd for that. I'm giving him all the stuff I have and I have plenty cables for the parts.

If he were to go buy this week locally, I have a fry's and micro center to choose from. His dad can get a small discount at micro center from his work, just not sure how much.

AMD 6300 $89
AMD 8320 3.5 $119
AMD 8320E 3.2 $109

WD Blue $54
Samsung DVD $15
212 Evo Cooler $35
Coolermaster Devestator keyboard and mouse $30

I think the biggest discount he gets is on the last four listed items.

I'm just not sure about the monitors or video cards they have in stock.

Now, if he "can't wait" on that 780 video card, will the 270X or equivalent, work with current power supply? I'm just thinking that he can keep saving his money for a bigger card, psu and better case by maybe christmas. Not sure if my logic is sound on this one, or should I tell him to wait? If you look up micro center or fry's, I will be shopping at the one in Dallas.

Thanks again for everyone's help.
    
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That's how much they cost at Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294965455/AMD-Processors

Wow, yeah that link works and thats a great price. Wish i lived closer to Denver, they have a microcenter there id love to shop at frequently if i were closer.

Thanks for clearing that up pain.
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