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post #41 of 75
The 270x is a great card, in terms of $/proformance, but the MSI 270 gaming edition is sometimes cheaper and can rival thr 270x in performance if not pass it as seen in a linus teh tips video from awhile back. You might check that out.

That 500watt PSU by antec might work in the short term, but id upgrade to a higher quality one before id put any serious strain on a used one with OCing. Pretty sure the 270 has a pretty low power demand. Double check the mgf website for reccomendations. You probably wont need more wattage than about a 550-650 unit max even if you do OC, but good quality will be the most important thing.
post #42 of 75
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Thanks guys. I think we are definitely on the right track for his budget. I talked with his dad, and he told me he wants to play League of legends, elder scrolls, arma, stranded deep, call of duty. Not sure what these games demand, and he understands with this budget, he may have to lower the resolution depending on the card he gets. The guy that has the 780 has not sent it off yet to be checked and will be out of town for another week. The 16 yr old is chomping at the bit the to get this going because he has been saving his money from his job he got a couple months ago. I have a first generation intel ssd I thought about giving him for his OS, but he may be better off with getting a newer technology cheap ssd for that. I'm giving him all the stuff I have and I have plenty cables for the parts.

If he were to go buy this week locally, I have a fry's and micro center to choose from. His dad can get a small discount at micro center from his work, just not sure how much.

AMD 6300 $89
AMD 8320 3.5 $119
AMD 8320E 3.2 $109

WD Blue $54
Samsung DVD $15
212 Evo Cooler $35
Coolermaster Devestator keyboard and mouse $30

I think the biggest discount he gets is on the last four listed items.

I'm just not sure about the monitors or video cards they have in stock.

Now, if he "can't wait" on that 780 video card, will the 270X or equivalent, work with current power supply? I'm just thinking that he can keep saving his money for a bigger card, psu and better case by maybe christmas. Not sure if my logic is sound on this one, or should I tell him to wait? If you look up micro center or fry's, I will be shopping at the one in Dallas.

Thanks again for everyone's help.
forget about buying an AMD cpu for ARMA.get an i5 instead.
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forget about buying an AMD cpu for ARMA.get an i5 instead.
He did name a few other games...
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He did name a few other games...
still...



but these are playable
Edited by PontiacGTX - 7/19/15 at 6:44pm
post #45 of 75
Your microcenter list there looks solid, but I'd definitely look into a ssd/higher quality psu. Both of those are purchases I guarantee you won't regret making but are REALLY easy to regret not making
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Your microcenter list there looks solid, but I'd definitely look into a ssd/higher quality psu. Both of those are purchases I guarantee you won't regret making but are REALLY easy to regret not making

THIS^

Please for the love of all that is PC gaming get a small 120 SSD for your OS. The difference is night and day. Upgrading to more storage is easy and cheap when you get the cash.
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Definitely getting the small ssd. When I see those graphs, is that major human noticeable or computer test noticeable? If that makes any sense. This will not be overclocked.
    
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post #48 of 75
Be careful of bench marking graphs. They are generally relative and your personal results may vary wildly. Also those two in particular look biased and were tested in a way to show intels stronger single threaded performance...which while a fact, means little to nothing in real world price/performance. The fact of the matter is that for most gaming purposes AMD chips are more than enough to make any modern title run great at 1080p with High/Ultra setting and a 60Hz refresh rate. Toms Hardware does a very unbiased review of their top picks at various price ranges for both CPU and GPU based on more "real world performance" benchmarks. Check them out for yourself as well as a few other sources and make the best decision you can with the budget you got.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html


Good luck.

[edit] P.S. I personally feel AMD has put more innovative tech on the market over the last 10 years of building with them, which means that over time they actually improve in performance as software plays catch up. We may see a resurgence in the efficiency and effectiveness of AMD's Architecture and choice to go with more cores per chip instead of a few faster ones.

For example in the CPU article...a Duel Core Pentium (~$130) is in line with the price of AMDs entry level 8 core chip (~$140). This is because right now intels cores beat AMDs in a head to head race. With most software only using one or 2 cores at a time it takes a lot of extra cores to see AMD catch up in raw bench marking performance. However, with DX12 becoming mainstream in the next year, software developers will have the tools to take advantage of more cores in every application they write. We have already seen some gains with this over time as some software utilizes more cores these days, and DX12 will be a huge step in hopefully showing that AMDs chips were simply ahead of their time, and offer more value to their customers down the road.
Edited by gapottberg - 7/20/15 at 5:23pm
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Microcenter has an EVGA 650 watt 80+ gold for $90 after rebate and several 120-128g sad's in the $60 range. This may be a stupid question, but how often do you update the bios? I'm guessing I should on this board when I get the new chip?
    
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post #50 of 75
Updating the BIOS isn't nearly as scary as it use to be on many modern boards. The risks are much smaller if you prep a recover USB drive in advance that can also be used to FLASH your BIOS instead of windows software. Updated Bios rarely improve performance in any way, but generally add features to the BIOS options and Hardware support like new CPUs and such. I would consider updating it right before before you install the new chip. A good rule of thumb with the BIOS is if it ain't broke don't fix it...and your current system works just fine right now. However, a rebuild provides a perfect opportunity to update it, which i would do.
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