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Originally Posted by diggiddi View Post

Why not? especially when you can use VSR or just double up

If you're aiming to max out games then the performance hit will be pretty crazy, in the majority games sub 30-40 fps, however you can always use a custom setup of graphical settings.

Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin runs at a locked 60fps at 4K for me, looks fantastic and if I recall correctly Street Fighter V also did when I played it during the last beta test.

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Originally Posted by Stige View Post

Finally.

Now to wait for DX12 and 970 is as good as dead. Or any game released a year from now and that 970 won't run it cause of crap memory.

Only a true fanboy would wish the demise of a competitors product. Don't like the GTX 970? No one cares.

People just want to know what's best for them, both are great products however the R9 390 is more future proof, people like you fanboying like mad man is doing no favors for anybody.

Your statements are filled with fabrications and FUD, and what you said doesn't even make any sense if you even understand how hardware works.
If you're running a game and the GPU is running out of memory what works exceptionally well in the majority of cases is to reduce the texture quality, games don't simply stop running. rolleyes.gif

That's the stupidest thing I've read in a long time.

Please, learn more about hardware before you embarrass yourself again.
Edited by TopicClocker - 1/24/16 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

Finally have some results worth reporting to the thread from a reputable source.

Techpowerup just tested a 390 Nitro. And they use up to date drivers and retest every card unlike most sites including a stock 390 and a stock 970.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_390_Nitro/23.html

390 is 4% faster than 970 at 1080p.

390 is 9% faster than 970 at 1440p.

390 is 13% faster than 970 at 4K.
I have to say very very nice and exactly what I was expecting now the question is what will Nvidia do when Nvidia release next lineup of GPU's will Nvidia do the usual and abandon the previous one or what just a bit of curriousity here as that is Nvidia's track record of how they work and do things for past many gens.

I will say if Nvidia do theyre usual well the R9 390 will get even better of an option both current and longeterm for literally same price as the GTX 970.

I want to also say if it is true that AMD current architecture has a huge advantage in DX12 well this will be a huge thorn in Nvidia GTX 970's side ontop of current situation with the 390 outperforming the 970 by 4%+ imagine if R9 390 with DX12 is 10%+ better performing on DX12 over GTX 970 that would put it on average 14%+ better performing that is a substantial amount above the GTX 970 for literally same price.

I want to also point out even Nvidia claim DX12 brings 20%+ increases in performance on theyre current hardware imagine what it does if what has been said about AMD side is true we could be talking 30%+ gains on AMD side not being biased here just stating some stuff that very well would be very relevant to the conversation but hasn't really been put into the conversation.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 1/24/16 at 10:48am
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post #483 of 535
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Originally Posted by diggiddi View Post

Why not? especially when you can use VSR or just double up
They are gonna run pretty bad. (But like topiclocker said, you can run some older games on it)

Should dead ass try that feature that upscales the game for a better anti aliasing, now thinking about it..
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Originally Posted by Stige View Post

Finally.

Now to wait for DX12 and 970 is as good as dead. Or any game released a year from now and that 970 won't run it cause of crap memory.
Man are you like insecure about your purchase or something, jesus.
Edited by daunow - 1/24/16 at 11:50am
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I haven't been following the thread, but how is the 'average' overclock headroom of both cards?
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I haven't been following the thread, but how is the 'average' overclock headroom of both cards?
it takes alot less mhz to get more performance on the 390 vs the 970 in short a 100mhz or so OC on the R9 390 is = to around a 300mhz OC on the GTX 970 in short you get more mhz out of the 970 but you get less performance per mhz than you do with the R9 390.
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A custom 970 should be good for 1500mhz on air, possibly 1600mhz if you're lucky.

All custom 290s should do 1100mhz on air. 1150mhz is common. 1200mhz+ is less common and 1300mhz is almost unheard of on air. The 290 doesn't overclock as well as the 7970/280X.

An 1150mhz 290 = 1500mhz 970.
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Originally Posted by rickcooperjr View Post

it takes alot less mhz to get more performance on the 390 vs the 970 in short a 100mhz or so OC on the R9 390 is = to around a 300mhz OC on the GTX 970 in short you get more mhz out of the 970 but you get less performance per mhz than you do with the R9 390.

This is very correct.
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A custom 970 should be good for 1500mhz on air, possibly 1600mhz if you're lucky.

All custom 290s should do 1100mhz on air. 1150mhz is common. 1200mhz+ is less common and 1300mhz is almost unheard of on air. The 290 doesn't overclock as well as the 7970/280X.

An 1150mhz 290 = 1500mhz 970.

I would say any card can do 1100, 1150 is good already and 1200 is pretty uncommon, don't see many in the lists atleast.
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1200 is pretty uncommon, yeah. I was being somewhat conservative. Most 290s can probably do 1150mhz.
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My GTX 970 does 1500mhz on air. Its a place holder until the new cards come out. Then that card is going straight to my arcade build. But if i was to buy a card now between them two. I will for sure take the R9 390 over a GTX 970. Since in my case i might need that 1GB more. The arcade build will have one of my 1440p monitor.
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