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My GTX 970 does 1500mhz on air. Its a place holder until the new cards come out. Then that card is going straight to my arcade build. But if i was to buy a card now between them two. I will for sure take the R9 390 over a GTX 970. Since in my case i might need that 1GB more. The arcade build will have one of my 1440p monitor.

What kind of games will you be running on the Arcade build if you don't mind me asking?
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What kind of games will you be running on the Arcade build if you don't mind me asking?

Not much really. Just old arcade games as well as the new street fighter 5 and other new fighting games that come out. like tekken and killer instinct and some racing games like project cars. Will be keeping the card as long as i can. Until it needs a update. Hopefully should last me a long time with this card.
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project cars hates amd cards dude.
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Hi guys,

just sharing what hell I went through with a GTX 970 I bought. I experienced serious coil whine and changed to a R390 in the end and never looked back!!!

I've done some small research myself and would like to share about it too.

From at least 5 website reviews using the AMD LATEST DRIVERS, the R9 390 BEATS the GTX 970 in terms of raw power. Shadow of Mordor (and probably more upcoming heavyweight titles) also uses more than 3.5GB of RAM and causes micro stuttering in Nvidia's controversial 3.5GB +0.5GB RAM, and that's where the power of AMD R390's 8GB RAM comes in.

1.http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Sapphire-Nitro-Radeon-R9-390-8GB-Review - for the Sapphire Nitro R9 390 8GB card, users will find that it is competitive with the performance of the GeForce GTX 970 4GB for a nearly identical price. It's not new, it's not flashy and it's not rewriting the world of GPUs, but it is at least slightly more than expected.


2.http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-r9-390-nitro-8gb-review/ - KitGuru Must Have


3.http://www.eteknix.com/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8gb-graphics-card-review/ - Teknix.com Innovation Award


4.http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8g-d5,4245.html - Verdict : Sapphire’s Radeon R9 390 Nitro offers a tremendous value for the money. It operates very quietly and has performance that outpaces the competition. The Tri-X cooler keeps the GPU at a reasonable temperature and having 8GB of memory means you’ll have room for the high resolution textures sure to be found in future games.


5.http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_390_Nitro/28.html - Editor's Choice


Also google "GTX 970 coil whine." Plenty of pissed off owners of GTX 970 as well. A lot of owners are encountering coil whine issues (some seems badly mentally affected with the high pitched whines during benchmark loading, running etc ) with GTX 970 that are virtually close to none in AMD R390s. EVGA, MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, Palit, Galaxy all have GTX 970 boards that may give you a potential coil whine nightmare especially for those who leave their side panels open and/or game without headsets. Some have did RMAs 4 times.

I bought a brand GTX 970 and got so pissed off with 2 exchanges of GTX 970 (Both still have coil whine, the last one is especially bad when paired up with a Corsair HXi-850 (Platinum). In the end, I went the AMD R390 route and never looked back. A quick test on 1600x900 unigine valley netted me 88 fps for the R390 over 78.9 fps for the GTX 970. That's a 9.1 fps advantage. A test on Uniheaven 1600x900 netted me 77.0 fps for the R390 over 72.8 fps for the GTX 970. That's a 4.2 fps, not too shabby. I'm running an Intel I7-6700K on an Asus Z170M-plus setup. Win 7 OS. 480 GB Sandisk Extreme Pro. Cooler Master V1000 (Gold). (Many corsair sucks, saw 2 units in RMA at the service centre, one is RM series another is HX series). My Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000 lasted me 6 years and still going strong.

No coil whine nightmare on R390. For the GTX 970, its a lottery draw for you. 50-50 it seems. If you're lucky, u get a good batch. If you're not lucky, you get your life turned upside down by coil whine. Sapphire Nitro R390 runs silent and kool. I would take higher power consumption + raw brute power over the hellish coil whine anyday. Note that I change cards between green and red camps regularly.

I went green, but went red again.

I'm not sure which camp I will be in in 5 years time though.

Thanks.

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How about other potential problems with AMD/R9 - do you have any, especially if using latest drivers? I've seen a lot of negative comments, and compiled a list. Can you please have a look and comment on the following thread? http://www.overclock.net/t/1590013/what-is-the-current-state-of-amd-cards-and-drivers-from-a-stability-perspective
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How about other potential problems with AMD/R9 - do you have any, especially if using latest drivers? I've seen a lot of negative comments, and compiled a list. Can you please have a look and comment on the following thread? http://www.overclock.net/t/1590013/what-is-the-current-state-of-amd-cards-and-drivers-from-a-stability-perspective


My sapphire Nitro R390 runs with no problems at all in Windows 10 with the latest Crimson drivers. In fact, it gains a few extra fps and becomes an MSI R390X equivalent after I overclocked it. Runs cool, quiet as hell and wickedly fast. Having R390X (and GTX 980 level performance) at a much lower price point than the GTX 980 is simply a joy.

The massive coil whine problems with GTX 970 and GTX 980, no thanks man. I've RMAed two Palits even though they claim they have switched component vendors so I'm not going to risk wasting my time and effort RMAing GTX 970s.

My Sapphire has ZERO coil whine compared to the GTX 970.

To be fair, I've seen a significant lot of negative comments about the GTX 970 as well. Crashes, massive coil whines (google and youtube them), 3.5+0.5gb scam (seriously 30+gb/s bandwidth), are they kidding me....even if there are no performance issues with this layout, there ARE (a website has documented microstuttering with the GTX 970 when it hits above 3.5GB in Shadow of Mordor and Attila etc)., it is ethically wrong to slap a 4GB sticker on a 3.5GB+0.5GB card.

Also, I feel with Nvidia's expensive G-sync, I'm being locked into a proprietory format that will hurt my own wallet in the long run.

So, I've turned from green to red.

No thanks Nvidia. Screw you.

- Here's writing as an ex Super Nvidia "FANBOY".
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My sapphire Nitro R390 runs with no problems at all in Windows 10 with the latest Crimson drivers. In fact, it gains a few extra fps and becomes an MSI R390X equivalent after I overclocked it. Runs cool, quiet as hell and wickedly fast. Having R390X (and GTX 980 level performance) at a much lower price point than the GTX 980 is simply a joy.

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k

Going w sapphire cant be wrong. They r tier 1 manufacturer for amd.
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The R9 390 does have 8GB of VRAM but you will never be able to fully make use of that before you max the core. I believe it is more for marketing than anything. Since this discussion also focuses on 1080p, you will never ever need 8GB of VRAM. Since you are talking about 1080p and single card setups you should not even be talking about the R9 390 as the 390 is just a factory OC'd R9 290 + extra 4GB of VRAM(which is completely useless esp. at 1080p.) for the most part with slight changes to power management for $90 more.

If you OC them both to the max I have no doubt the 970 will win more often than not esp. at 1080p and 3.5GB of VRAM will not be a problem at 1080p.

If you consider the R9 290 at around $80-$90 cheaper than a R9 390 then it definitely represents a better value than the GTX 970. However, if you are comparing a 1500MHz+ 970 to a 1200MHz R9 290/390 @ 1080p only then 970 will definitely win more often than not.

What are the price points you're looking at?

The GTX970s I've seen go for around $300, and a bit under $300 with promos. (not Jet.com)

The R9 290s are around that price as well, and R9 390s are at $400.
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390s can't be $400 if you have 970s for 300$, that makes no sense at all.

There is a ~20€ price difference between the cheapest 970 and 390 here in Finland, it can't be 100$ anywhere.
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