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Coil Whine/Fan is loud as hell under full load, funny thing is that I RMA'd my first one and the second one still had coil whine, I think I am curse or maybe it has to do with some components on my rig other than the PSU (since I even replace that). At the same time I've seen many people not experience this hell I am experiencing.

If the 970 is bad I just don't want to imagine how bad the 390 is ( or maybe it isn't, actually heard a lot of positive things about it ), however I am eventually gonna sell this 970 to get a pascal card.



I was from Team Red. I envied Team Green's efficient architecture and bought a palit gtx 970 card and got horrible coil whine. RMA two times and they told me these are the 'latest batches' as Palit has changed component vendors. I don't buy what they say and did not risk a 3rd time. I went through a very frustrating time RMaing, changing PSUs, frame limiting, overvolting, v-syncing, you name it to get a cure for coil whine. The curse wouldn't go away until I got enlightened from above.

I swapped for a sapphire nitro R390 and never looked back. That Beast has ZERO coil whine. Runs cooler than antartica and you cant hear anything. Its eerily quiet. The 390s of today are a far cry from the hellish heaty loud R290 reference of yesterdays.

People buy R390s now for the silence and coolness, plus an extra 8GB doesn't hurt. My friend is trying to sell his GTX 970 now but he says no one wants to buy his card. He experiences unpleasant stutters when playing shadow of mordor in a multi monitor setup and he fears the worst if upcoming games keep exceeding the 3.5gb.

Now hes planning to just ditch the GTX 970 and get a sapphire R390x 8gb just to play shadow of mordor smoothly.

Team Red AMD really nailed it with Shadow of Mordor this time.

I'm glad I stayed with Team Red this time...
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I was from Team Red. I envied Team Green's efficient architecture and bought a palit gtx 970 card and got horrible coil whine. RMA two times and they told me these are the 'latest batches' as Palit has changed component vendors. I don't buy what they say and did not risk a 3rd time. I went through a very frustrating time RMaing, changing PSUs, frame limiting, overvolting, v-syncing, you name it to get a cure for coil whine. The curse wouldn't go away until I got enlightened from above.

I swapped for a sapphire nitro R390 and never looked back. That Beast has ZERO coil whine. Runs cooler than antartica and you cant hear anything. Its eerily quiet. The 390s of today are a far cry from the hellish heaty loud R290 reference of yesterdays.

People buy R390s now for the silence and coolness, plus an extra 8GB doesn't hurt. My friend is trying to sell his GTX 970 now but he says no one wants to buy his card. He experiences unpleasant stutters when playing shadow of mordor in a multi monitor setup and he fears the worst if upcoming games keep exceeding the 3.5gb.

Now hes planning to just ditch the GTX 970 and get a sapphire R390x 8gb just to play shadow of mordor smoothly.

Team Red AMD really nailed it with Shadow of Mordor this time.

I'm glad I stayed with Team Red this time...

Shadow of Mordor recommends 6GB of VRAM with ultra textures, it's a terrible idea to use a GTX 970 in that game and expect decent performance in a multi-monitor setup.
post #513 of 535
Intel CPU, enjoy your Sapphire card.

I'm just about the biggest Sapphire fanboy you'll ever find on these forums.

I've owned two Tri-X 290s (when they were brand new and one cost me $650- mining craze), two Vapor-X 290s (best cards I ever owned), a Vapor-X 7970, a Vapor-X 270X and now my 380X Nitro which is my placeholder card until Polaris.

I've had like 15 different GPUs from them and all have been great. The only one that failed on me was my first (not garbage) card, a 6870 Dual-X. The only reason it failed was that it was in another machine for my brother to game on and he played some game and didn't turn the fan profile on in Trixx. It overheated and fried. I still have it as a shelf piece for people to look at here.

Pretty much every GPU I've benched for HWBOT has been Sapphire.

Generally any Vapor-X card on the market in the last 5 years has had pretty much the BEST air cooler for any AMD card, period. They even heatsink the VRMs now and have fans blowing directly on them. Look at the disassembly of the 290 Vapor-X and you can see.

I really miss my 290s but I'm not gaming on the computer much now so I can hold off for Polaris. I really hope that Sapphire releases good coolers for them. Vapor-X would be great but what I'd really like to see is a comeback of the Toxic series of cards. Those were amazing.

Anyway, nothing to add other than that. Sapphire makes the best AMD GPUs imo.
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When i was shopping for graphics card around Christmas I did a lot of research as to what was the better performing. The answer was the R9 390,
about 100 dollars cheaper in AUD when i bought from NewEgg

There was something that reviews never mentioned.
AMDs bloody drivers
Ive either had to backdate drivers or download community fixes for games that are not any more than 6 or so months old.

After about 2 or 3 weeks of general use and fixing everything is fine and after a bit of OC I flog almost every 970 benchmark.
But during the time i spent fixing little things in games i sometimes wished that i got the GTX 970

That is why AMD is not profitable and not in the position is was years ago.
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Intel CPU, enjoy your Sapphire card.

I'm just about the biggest Sapphire fanboy you'll ever find on these forums.

I've owned two Tri-X 290s (when they were brand new and one cost me $650- mining craze), two Vapor-X 290s (best cards I ever owned), a Vapor-X 7970, a Vapor-X 270X and now my 380X Nitro which is my placeholder card until Polaris.

I've had like 15 different GPUs from them and all have been great. The only one that failed on me was my first (not garbage) card, a 6870 Dual-X. The only reason it failed was that it was in another machine for my brother to game on and he played some game and didn't turn the fan profile on in Trixx. It overheated and fried. I still have it as a shelf piece for people to look at here.

Pretty much every GPU I've benched for HWBOT has been Sapphire.

Generally any Vapor-X card on the market in the last 5 years has had pretty much the BEST air cooler for any AMD card, period. They even heatsink the VRMs now and have fans blowing directly on them. Look at the disassembly of the 290 Vapor-X and you can see.

I really miss my 290s but I'm not gaming on the computer much now so I can hold off for Polaris. I really hope that Sapphire releases good coolers for them. Vapor-X would be great but what I'd really like to see is a comeback of the Toxic series of cards. Those were amazing.

Anyway, nothing to add other than that. Sapphire makes the best AMD GPUs imo.

I like my sapphire cards too but why do they only have a 2 year warranty?
Edited by Bluescreendeath - 2/7/16 at 9:48am
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here is a very good video I was impressed by it is pretty ell humbling because they actually did things in a unbiased testing method and really put the effort in to do so keep in mind the R9 390 is cheaper than the GTX 970 they did stock and overclocked and well 90% of time the OC on the R9 390 gave more performance per mhz also keep in mind the drivers are maturing still on the R9 390 and such and in general entire AMD lineup.

His explanation at the end is very note worthy and eye opening.


here are a few other good videos


Edited by rickcooperjr - 2/12/16 at 2:57pm
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Kinda wish I knew how to OC my 970... damm.. that FPS gain on The division
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Kinda wish I knew how to OC my 970... damm.. that FPS gain on The division
yeah but notice in alot of games the OC on the 970 doesn't really increase performance yet the mild OC on the R9 390 makes alot of difference and did you notice the 390 smacks the crap out of the 970 on it.
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Some people want to trade his Powercolor R9-390 PCS+ with my Zotac GTX 780 Ti AMP!
I have universal block for GPU and I OC 780 Ti to 1301Mhz/1900Mhz for 24/7 use.
I hope that 390 can OC to 1250Mhz-1300Mhz under water also.
I game at 1440p and 3GB VRAM start to have issue with GTA V. I can't enable extended distance scaling or high res shadows or MSAA at all because game will stutter (actually my card have enough horse power).
My 780 Ti @ 1301Mhz/1900Mhz score around 14200 firestrike graphics score (without any tweaks just OC alone).
I see people with 390 @ around 1300Mhz score 16800 in same test (don't know tessellation is enable or not).

780 Ti trade with 390 should be upgrade for me right ?
Edited by Enterprise24 - 2/13/16 at 5:58am
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Yes it will be. Just alone on the fact that 3GB is not enough these days, not at 1440p anyway.
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