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What exactly is the problem with the mouse at 1000 CPI? Is it something that affects your game play in games like BF4?
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What exactly is the problem with the mouse at 1000 CPI? Is it something that affects your game play in games like BF4?

The mouses sensor is native 500. Anything else is interpolated, causing jitter, smoothing, and other things. When I had a Rival 100 it felt like 1000 CPI was pixel skipping.
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it's not interpolated any differently from how the various cpi steps are derived from e.g. 3366, 3988, 3310, am010/3320, etc...

the sensor itself is just very "weak"/lowend
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post #1274 of 1493
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it's not interpolated any differently from how the various cpi steps are derived from e.g. 3366, 3988, 3310, am010/3320, etc...

the sensor itself is just very "weak"/lowend

How is the sensor weak/lowend?

It appears that 4 non-sponsored CS:GO pros are using it. I think that list will grow to 10-15 in the next few months.
post #1275 of 1493
the base resolution isn't very high to begin with, and it only uses a 19x19 array of pixels, whereas am010/3320 is 26x26, 3090+that old family is 30x30, 9500/9800/3988/3310 is 30x30, 3366 is 36x36

as for "low end", i believe pixart/avago always had sort of a hierarchy of sensors which reflect their pricing and their specs (things like framerate, array size, max dpi, etc...)
for instance,
http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Avago%20PDFs/ADNS-3050.pdf
says entry level

http://www.pixart.com.tw/upload/Product_Brief-SDNS3988-PB-161115_20151116150733.pdf
says high performance
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Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post

the base resolution isn't very high to begin with, and it only uses a 19x19 array of pixels, whereas am010/3320 is 26x26, 3090+that old family is 30x30, 9500/9800/3988/3310 is 30x30, 3366 is 36x36

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http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Avago%20PDFs/ADNS-3050.pdf
says entry level

http://www.pixart.com.tw/upload/Product_Brief-SDNS3988-PB-161115_20151116150733.pdf
says high performance

Fair enough.


I'm currently using a G303 and I swear I used to aim better with older mice like Abby 2k14, ZA12, G400s, Kana v1 etc. I was going to buy a Rival 100 to try out because I was thinking that maybe my aim is suffering because the G303 is weirdly shaped? I did used to play at 400dpi and 2 ingame and have moved to 3 ingame about 5 months ago so that could also be the problem too. Or maybe my new pad. I'm leaning towards the weird shape of the G303 and the fact that it has minimal palm support and like 45mm width at the grip point in claw grip but then I don't know because some days I go nuts and don't miss any shots with the G303 and get called out for cheats. I think that all the shape > sensor arguments could be true one minute, but then the next I just think that my positioning and the way I clear angles and other game sense stuff needs work. As they say, a pro could play with a ball mouse and still own.

What are your thoughts?
post #1277 of 1493
yea all you need to know is that guardian plays with a kinzu v1 at like 80cm/360.
k the click latency is low, but hell the tracking is horrendous
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yea all you need to know is that guardian plays with a kinzu v1 at like 80cm/360.
k the click latency is low, but hell the tracking is horrendous

So what you're saying is that yeah you can use mice with inferior tracking because of a good shape, but don't expect to be using it at anything faster than 400dpi and 2 or around there? (that seems to be the line for me I need to aim slower and focus more on my crosshair movement - when sens is lower than that I can 'mindlessly' flick onto opponents).

S1mple is using a Sensei Raw on a cloth pad and wins most 1v1s against pro aimers and he's at 29.9cm/360 or 450dpi and 3.09 ingame. In a lot of his twitch streams he purposely positions his crosshair away from small gaps and consistently flicks accurately onto door gaps and stuff when enemies peek just to show off for his viewers. How could that be possible with an inferior sensor especially one that has inconsistent accel?

What about f0rest? He uses EC2-A at 29.7cm/360 and is proclaimed best USP player. Hiko and Elige both use Deathadders at like 25cm/360 and have good aim. Apparently DA has major smoothing.
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What about f0rest? He uses EC2-A at 29.7cm/360 and is proclaimed best USP player. Hiko and Elige both use Deathadders at like 25cm/360 and have good aim. Apparently DA has major smoothing.

Not smoothing, but angle snapping, which makes flicks more consistent/easy.
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So what you're saying is that yeah you can use mice with inferior tracking because of a good shape, but don't expect to be using it at anything faster than 400dpi and 2 or around there?
no i'm saying more or less the same thing you're saying
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