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post #381 of 1498
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Originally Posted by ronal View Post

Making a custom sensor based off the 3050 (which is old tech) is ludicrous, why not just use the 3310 instead and call it a day.

Of course price is a factor. Though I have no clue about the actual cost diffrence between the to. But regular Rival with 3310 sells a bit higher ~69,99 compared to Rival 100 which targets for 39,99 so resonable there should be some price diffrence.
Old is not necessarly bad. Kinzu V3 and Kana V2 that both runs older Optical sensor are still very popular mices and can perform in pro-games.
And Rival 100 is certainly not the only new Steelseries mouse to come in the near future, there will be something new to target a more premium audience as well.
(btw sorry if the English is poor, i'm Swedish)
post #382 of 1498
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Originally Posted by SteelseriesDave View Post

no, problem. fair enough

Why on earth did they use that sensor, and when is the person who made that decision being fired?

Was it really to save $2 per mouse in costs?

There is ZERO chance the 3050/59 will be able to perform at anywhere near the new benchmark, which is the 3310. Everywhere there are people saying the decision was straight up idiotic. Here are all some of the words I have seen used to describe the sensor choice:

'abysmal'
'baffling'
'beyond stupid'
'retarded'
'idiotic'
Edited by johnsamuels - 9/25/15 at 11:05am
post #383 of 1498
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Originally Posted by ronal View Post

Making a custom sensor based off the 3050 (which is old tech) is ludicrous, why not just use the 3310 instead and call it a day.

It's not a custom sensor. Changing a 0 to a 9 doesn't change the hardware. Razer tries to act like the 3989 is a different sensor -- same applies here. If it is true that it's called a 3059, the only thing different would be the SROM. However, doesn't this mouse use the MCU to create settings above 2000 CPI? Also, the 3050 hits its performance limit at 500 CPI. It would have been better to go with a PMW-3320, but they want a higher malfunction speed.

If they wanted to make a variant of a lower end sensor, they should have got PixArt to increase the frame rate on the PMW-3320 and exclude all smoothing.
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Originally Posted by johnsamuels View Post

Why on earth did they use that sensor, and when is the person who made that decision being fired?

Was it really to save $2 per mouse in costs?

There is ZERO chance the 3050/59 will be able to perform at anywhere near the new benchmark, which is the 3310. Everywhere there are people saying the decision was straight up idiotic. Here are all some of the words I have seen used to describe the sensor choice:

'abysmal'
'baffling'
'beyond stupid'
'retarded'
'idiotic'

They most likely got a deal on a bunch of leftover 3050 sensors. Who wants to sell 3050 mice these days? If they hype up the mouse/sensor they could make a lot of money. So, it's not dumb of them to make such a product.
Edited by popups - 9/25/15 at 11:14am
post #384 of 1498
3310 is a reliable sensor but it's not the new "benchmark" tbh.

Benchmark would be the 3366.
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post #385 of 1498
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Originally Posted by trism View Post

His claims weren't so far off if you exclude the exaggerations. This guy, however, claims to work at Steelseries and that he has insider knowledge concerning the sensor - yet he calls the Rival 100 as ergonomic even though it's 100% ambidextrous (except the side-buttons seem to be only on one side). Doesn't seem very legit to me.
Yeah, that was weird. I mean whether or not he's legit he seriously needs to see an eye doctor. No offense, Dave. That screen from the SteelSeries website also said 3050 not 3059. Not sure what you would get out of trolling us but whatever floats your boat rolleyes.gif
post #386 of 1498
So we could see a Rival 100/300/600 series as a future product line? I think Steelseries needs to do something more with the Rival line. It just makes sense. The Sensei shape is fantastic but leave many people wanting something with an optical and I don't see how the Rival 100 fits that niche. Logically I could see them expanding this line as the replacement to the Kinzu.
Edited by CT2000 - 9/25/15 at 11:13am
post #387 of 1498
Steelseries and their entry level sensor fetish.
post #388 of 1498
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Originally Posted by SteelseriesDave View Post

Of course price is a factor. Though I have no clue about the actual cost diffrence between the to. But regular Rival with 3310 sells a bit higher ~69,99 compared to Rival 100 which targets for 39,99 so resonable there should be some price diffrence.
Old is not necessarly bad. Kinzu V3 and Kana V2 that both runs older Optical sensor are still very popular mices and can perform in pro-games.
And Rival 100 is certainly not the only new Steelseries mouse to come in the near future, there will be something new to target a more premium audience as well.
(btw sorry if the English is poor, i'm Swedish)

For a regular nobody, it would cost $4 for the 3050 and $6.80 for the 3310. For a big company the prices would be much lower and the gap much lower also.

Old is bad unless you are talking about the WMO. The Kana was released years ago and you are using it as justification for releasing a mouse in 2015 with an older sensor than the Kana had?!? Crazy talk.

Yes SS will release another very large and heavy 'premium' mouse. We all know that is exactly what you are going to do. Another brick with a sensor in it somewhere.
post #389 of 1498
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Originally Posted by trism View Post

His claims weren't so far off if you exclude the exaggerations. This guy, however, claims to work at Steelseries and that he has insider knowledge concerning the sensor - yet he calls the Rival 100 as ergonomic even though it's 100% ambidextrous (except the side-buttons seem to be only on one side). Doesn't seem very legit to me.


Its refered to as Ergonomic. Not as much curved as big brother Rival but still more Ergo than ambidex.
But yes, on the pictures it definitly looks ambidex.
Edited by dzlDave - 9/25/15 at 1:13pm
post #390 of 1498
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

3310 is a reliable sensor but it's not the new "benchmark" tbh.

Benchmark would be the 3366.

I only didn't say 3366 as it is exclusive to Logitech at the moment right?

3310 is the best sensor that everyone can put in a mouse.
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