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post #751 of 1498
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Originally Posted by uaokkkkkkkk View Post

Amusingly there has been no pictures of the internals yet.

barley anyone has the mouse, not to mention the type of person that would be willing to open it up to take pics and all that jazz. i know i wont be.
post #752 of 1498
I was considering purchasing this mouse until I saw the sensor they went with. No 3310 or 3366 sensor?? wth.gif
post #753 of 1498
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Originally Posted by SirKnight7 View Post

I was considering purchasing this mouse until I saw the sensor they went with. No 3310 or 3366 sensor?? wth.gif

It's their budget mouse solution a la Kinzu/Kana, so the sensor choice makes perfect sense (to keep it priced low). As long as the Sensei keeps making them money there's no point in them releasing a new flagship.
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post #754 of 1498
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

barley anyone has the mouse, not to mention the type of person that would be willing to open it up to take pics and all that jazz. i know i wont be.

h8m3 from esreality has you covered
http://imgur.com/a/tMqAl
post #755 of 1498
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Originally Posted by povohat View Post

h8m3 from esreality has you covered
http://imgur.com/a/tMqAl

Wow it looks so similar to a kinzu. A kinzu with a decent click latency + side buttons.....about freakin time !
post #756 of 1498
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Originally Posted by poros1ty View Post

$30 mouse? Ok, just don't expect to use it for more than a day lol.

I don't get it. Old and crappy sensor when they are much better sensors on the market. This is why I never buy Steelseries mice. They all suck.

Why would I go from 3310 to 3050? Maybe if you're a high sens player you can resort to this cheap bad mouse, but if you're a low sens player you can easily hit 3.5 m/s or higher so this mouse is worthless.

Waste of money folks.

Sorry but this is bull****.
First of all this "i need a mouse with 40 m/s" otherwise is crap is the dpi scam v2.0.

- Everyone was fine with the intellimouse that could reach max 1.5 m/s.
- Not so many people reach these speeds. Skadoodle plays with a g100s (2.5 m/s?) with 1.4 sens @ 400 dpi, i dont see him crying. Actually i think he's better now with such a "crappy sensor" (your words). Fyi his old mouse was an fk1, with the "amazing" 3310 and "crispy" huanos. You could argue he's sponsored by logitech and he's forced to use their mice.
So look at Hiko last tournament. He's sponsored by razer and the last mouse he used before joining liquid was a ZA13. I know he changes mice like socks, but the last tourney liquid had was so much important: it was the qualifier for the last major of the year. Infact Adren was using an fk1 (his favourite mouse) and guess what: Hiko decided to use the best mouse he could, the g100s. Fast clicks, responsive sensor, a decent shape. That's all you need.

More than 1 year ago i pointed out the 3310 was bad. I can only confirm that. The 3310 is just an optical 9800. And imho the 9800 is one of the worst sensor in the gaming mice history. Ok, it doesn't have the delay the first batches had, but i still feel the smoothing. The same thing me and a lot of other people can feel on the 3310. And no, it's not placebo. For example on cs go you can hold angles and flick very nice with it, but when you want to follow a target with an high/medium sensitivity the pain starts, it's like if your crosshair is dragging on sand. Now, while i can still perform with it (using a ZA12 for the last 3 months, mainly for the shape), everytime i wanna flank an enemy that is moving it's a pain in the ass while with every other sensor on the earth would be one tap.

3310 pros:
- high speed (6 m/s)
- native dpi steps
- low and adjustable lift off
- only 0.5% positive accel

3310 cons:
- SMOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING.

Now why should i stick with a 3310 mouse if i dont need the 6 m/s?
Will the ss3059 deliver native dpi steps and a low lift off? Yes.

So for me and a lot of other people the rival 100 looks like a better alternative. It has sidebuttons (seriously logitech it's 2015, time to add sidebuttons to your g100s, you did it on the g3 10 years ago), a nice shape, it's light and the sensor, if you dont need 9000 m/s and if it doesn't have smoothing (mine will arrive on tuesday) will be better than any 3310. And since i am using a ZA12, the smashable buttons are another huge pros for me. Was a 3320 a better choice? Ofc, the AM010 is my favourite sensor (true aimers want the blooody raw feeling biggrin.gif), but, you know, we can't have it all tongue.gif


TLDR: if you dont need the 3310 max speed, sensors like the am010 (3320) are a lot better. The ss3059 on paper (4 m/s and no smoothing) has everything I need so i dont feel it's a downgrade. Just realize that this "3310 is better because has more maximum speed!!!11" it sounds like Razer when comes out with new products "The new Razer Mamba is the best gaming mouse in the world because it has 20k DPI!!!!11". Who cares if everyone uses 800 max? -.-
Edited by atarii - 10/16/15 at 9:27am
post #757 of 1498
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Originally Posted by atarii View Post

Sorry but this is bull****.
First of all this "i need a mouse with 40 m/s" otherwise is crap is the dpi scam v2.0.

- Everyone was fine with the intellimouse that could reach max 1.5 m/s.
- Not so many people reach these speeds. Skadoodle plays with a g100s (2.5 m/s?) with 1.4 sens @ 400 dpi, i dont see him crying. Actually i think he's better now with such a "crappy sensor" (your words). Fyi his old mouse was an fk1, with the "amazing" 3310 and "crispy" huanos. You could argue he's sponsored by logitech and he's forced to use their mice.
So look at Hiko last tournament. He's sponsored by razer and the last mouse he used before joining liquid was a ZA13. I know he changes mice like socks, but the last tourney liquid had was so much important: it was the qualifier for the last major of the year. Infact Adren was using an fk1 (his favourite mouse) and guess what: Hiko decided to use the best mouse he could, the g100s. Fast clicks, responsive sensor, a decent shape. That's all you need.

More than 1 year ago i pointed out the 3310 was bad. I can only confirm that. The 3310 is just an optical 9800. And imho the 9800 is one of the worst sensor in the gaming mice history. Ok, it doesn't have the delay the first batches had, but i still feel the smoothing. The same thing me and a lot of other people can feel on the 3310. And no, it's not placebo. For example on cs go you can hold angles and flick very nicely with it, but when you want to follow a target with an high/medium sensitivity the pain starts, it's like if your crosshair is dragging on sand. Now, while i can still perform with it (using a ZA12 for the last 3 months, mainly for the shape), everytime i wanna flank an enemy that is moving it's a pain in the ass while with every other sensor on the earth would be one tap.

3310 pros:
- high speed (6 m/s)
- native dpi steps
- low and adjustable lift off
- only 0.5% positive accel

3310 cons:
- SMOOOOOOOOOOOOTHING.

Now why should i stick with a 3310 mouse if i dont need the 6 m/s?
Will the ss3059 deliver native dpi steps and a low lift off? Yes.

So for me and a lot of other people the rival 100 looks like a better alternative. It has sidebuttons (seriously logitech it's 2015, time to add sidebuttons to your g100s, you did it on the g3 10 years ago), a nice shape, it's light and the sensor, if you dont need 9000 m/s and if it doesn't have smoothing (mine will arrive on tuesday) it will be better than any 3310. And since i am using a ZA12, the smashable buttons are another huge pros for me. Was a 3320 a better choice? Ofc, the AM010 is my favourite sensor (true aimers want the blooody raw feeling biggrin.gif), but, you know, we can't have it all tongue.gif


TLDR: if you dont need the 3310 max speed, sensors like the am010 (3320) are a lot better. The ss3059 on paper (4 m/s and no smoothing) has everything I need so i dont feel it's a downgrade. Just realize that this "3310 is better because has more maximum speed!!!11" it sounds like Razer when comes out with new products "The new Razer Mamba is the best gaming mouse in the world because it has 20k DPI!!!!11". Who cares if everyone uses 800 max? -.-

People here do not have much knowledge, thinking the 3310 is so amazing just because of the max speed. In fact, if one thinks 3310 is "best" or "really good" then it proves how little knowledge they really have.

For me personally no accel/SRAV, more stable polling rate and raw performance/less smoothing/more responsive cursor is way more important than malfunction speed. For example, the 3050 or the am010 would provide that, depending on the implementation.

Also, iirc 3050 was released approximately at the same time as 3310. thumb.gifbiggrin.gif
Edited by ramraze - 10/16/15 at 9:25am
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post #758 of 1498
So @woll3, can Roccat do something like this and just stamp the "Pro Optic R2" name on a 3050 sensor?
post #759 of 1498
Lets not forget that its Steelseries we are talkin about.
Their implementation is most likly garbagecan.
post #760 of 1498
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So @woll3, can Roccat do something like this and just stamp the "Pro Optic R2" name on a 3050 sensor?

 

?

 

Casing is still branded A3050 unless something has changed from Lua as "Pro Optic R2" is just a marketing designation.

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