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post #771 of 1498
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Originally Posted by atarii View Post

Didnt know about Skadoodle, guess the spreadsheet where i found the data was wrong. Anyway i am pretty sure n0thing (g100s) uses something beetween 1.7/2.1@400 and it's not like he's missing shots.

That said i agree that people with a really low sens can benefit from the 3310 but i dont understand why sensor with less maximum speed but with other advantages should be called bad/old/crappy and so on smile.gif

I actually agree with your overall point, was just pointing out that they play with a high enough sens to get around the speed thing. As far as nothing goes he let it slip on stream that he had a custom g100s with different internals (probably the 3366), but i doubt he'd admit it now if asked as Logitech is a sponsor. So whether or not he's using a "stock" g100s or a custom one is up in the air at this point imo.
Edited by TriviumKM - 10/16/15 at 12:19pm
post #772 of 1498
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Originally Posted by a_ak57 View Post

Well, there's not much point in talking about CS players anyway. The people who talk about needing high speeds generally play stuff like quake.

Still in 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rce75JYlJd8&t=19m08s
post #773 of 1498
Yea I remember hearing about the Custom G100s from n0things stream. I also more recently heard tarik talking about possibly asking Razer to put the DeathAdder Chroma sensor into a Abyssus. Seems that most pro's with the big sponsors can go ahead and ask for such things. Imagine Fnatic asking for Sensei' with 3310's biggrin.gif

Sorry for going off topic tongue.gif
post #774 of 1498
if you look around a bit you can piece together what's actually in n0thing's mouse

hint: cpate and woll3 didnt lie when they said it's an am010
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post #775 of 1498
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Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post

if you look around a bit you can piece together what's actually in n0thing's mouse

hint: cpate and woll3 didnt lie when they said it's an am010

Would it be a lie if it were an am010, but with the gyro like the 402?! hmm biggrin.gif
Jokes aside i actually forgot cpate and woll3 confirmed it was the am010 he was using.
post #776 of 1498
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Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post

if you look around a bit you can piece together what's actually in n0thing's mouse

hint: cpate and woll3 didnt lie when they said it's an am010

Less smoothing, much higher tracking speed and 1000Hz polling. It might be using the am010 but it's very different from the G100s that's being sold to consumers. If someone wants to buy the mouse that their favorite professional uses then they shouldn't be tricked into buying something very different.
post #777 of 1498
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

Still in 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rce75JYlJd8&t=19m08s

I didn't say literally everyone who plays quake needs high malfunction speed and can't use mice that don't provide that, just that the need is more prevalent in something like Quake than CS. Though from what I recall the WMO's malfunctioning comes in the form of tracking without perfect accuracy/not tracking rather than sending your aim somewhere random which is the real problem. People who want 4m/s aren't saying they routinely aim at those speeds, they just whip the mouse sometimes and don't want to be staring at the ground/sky.

I do think people would be surprised in both directions if they monitored their speed during some games. Typically I don't even reach 2m/s (I play CSGO) but once in a while I'll hit 3-4 because I hear something behind me and freak out and whip the mouse. So malfunction speed doesn't generally matter to me, but occasionally it does. I imagine if I got back into UT or something I would have a higher average speed and hit that 3-4 mark more often.
post #778 of 1498
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Originally Posted by atarii View Post

1) I took Hiko as an example because he changes mice a lot so he has tried almost every mouse out there. And yet he decided to use the g100s and the logitech hard pad for the most important tournament he would have played this year.

2) On ESL One Cologne 2014 Hiko used the g100s, just zoom his hand

http://static.hltv.org/images/galleries/6124-full/1408222116.2337.jpeg

guess what, same setup he used some days ago @ cluj qualifier


so my point still stand smile.gif

Oh, I had it mixed up with EMS One Katowice 2014. He was using the kinzu v2 before the c9 sponsorship and the g100s. Hiko was stomping international teams at the time and continued with c9/g100s.
post #779 of 1498
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Originally Posted by Maximillion View Post

My Rival 100 arrived about an hour ago. I've done nothing but plug it in and use it to navigate Windows so far, but some quick initial thoughts...

-Shape: Essentially nailed it, ambi users will have little to gripe about imo. I'd actually consider it usable in all 3 grips (fingertip feels most natural to me, 20cm hands)

-Size: Very much in the Kana range as what you'd heard. Very similar to my ZA12.

-Weight: Feels heavier than the ZA12, but also feels sturdier (build quality quite good tbh)

-Coating/Grips: Both are decent but time (and in-game use) will tell. Side grips aren't the basketball-like rubber (Castor, DA, Rival 300) but hard-plastic like the Abby '14.

-Clicks: ehhh...not the worst, gonna take a bit of getting used to for a fair analysis.

-Sensor: Obviously will get into this more later. Just had to plant my flag since I actually have it in-hand now.

Is it the same shape as the kana/kinzu?
post #780 of 1498
Not to mention Raphas sens is like 19 cm PLUS accel, he could pretty much get away with an office mouse speed wise.
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