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post #871 of 1493
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Originally Posted by ramraze View Post

Does the height feel enough compared to, say, za12? It's the only thing I'm worried about.

The mouse is more flat than any ZA, it could be less comfortable if you palm grip it. I use a mix of finger and claw grip and my hand is 20cm so, for me, there is no difference. The main difference is that both ZA and FK mice are not balanced. For example the FK1 and ZA11 are too long for their width. The Rival 100 is a lot shorter but has the same width, so you'll control your mouse better, your spray control and flicks (if you dont mind the lod) will improve a lot.
post #872 of 1493
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Originally Posted by atarii View Post

The mouse is more flat than any ZA, it could be less comfortable if you palm grip it. I use a mix of finger and claw grip and my hand is 20cm so, for me, there is no difference. The main difference is that both ZA and FK mice are not balanced. For example the FK1 and ZA11 are too long for their width. The Rival 100 is a lot shorter but has the same width, so you'll control your mouse better, your spray control and flicks (if you dont mind the lod) will improve a lot.

Okay. Thx. How about the ZA12 in terms of length/width?
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post #873 of 1493
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Originally Posted by kicksome View Post

For the high lod can't you just use the tape trick? Does it work for all mice?

Can't try atm, tomorrow i'll try the tape trick or to stack other feet on it, like already suggested
post #874 of 1493
After a few days I can honestly say...

It's a pile of crap imo. There's something completely "off" about this sensors actual precision. At 1000 dpi, an increment that would result in a movement of 1 pixel nets me 2 pixels on the desktop even.

Trying to make really tiny squares, pixel by pixel gets you some weird shaking (I always found, the better a mouse is at this on the desktop, the better I can keep up with erratic strafing ingame, and it SHOWS).

Garbage in a great shape.

If you want something similar (price category wise), honest you're better off with this: http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Abyssus-Essential-Ambidextrous-Gaming/dp/B00L0YLRNY
(you'll be stuck at 1800 dpi without Synapse, but at least it does that quite well)

I'd rather use a Sensei/Xai with accel then this.

The only good thing about it is "stability", but that's actually a side effect of how crap it is.

It's the first time in years I actually think a mouse its performance is an absolute pile of crap tbh.

I'm starting to think there is some lineair factor between Shapes and Performance over at SS: For every increment in shape awesomeness, there's an increment in Sensor/implementation crapness.

It could be prediction, idk, but it just doesn't feel right.

Thank god this one wasn't expensive...
Edited by CorruptBE - 10/20/15 at 3:31pm
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post #875 of 1493
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Originally Posted by ramraze View Post

Okay. Thx. How about the ZA12 in terms of length/width?

I already had the FK1 and it was too skinny for me, that's why i picked the ZA12, it's 4mm shorter but only 2mm narrower, it feels better in my hand. The ZA13 should be better (again -4mm lenght and -2mm width) but i thought it was too small.
post #876 of 1493
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Originally Posted by atarii View Post

I already had the FK1 and it was too skinny for me, that's why i picked the ZA12, it's 4mm shorter but only 2mm narrower, it feels better in my hand. The ZA13 should be better (again -4mm lenght and -2mm width) but i thought it was too small.

Okay. I have tried the ZA11 and I felt the exact same. My za12 is arriving tomorrow and my rival 100 the day after that.
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post #877 of 1493
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There's something completely "off" about this sensors actual precision. At 1000 dpi,

I dont know @ 1000 dpi, but @ 500 it's fine. Something is off (a little bit of angle snapping?), but at least there is no smoothing. The problem is with the lod, if i use a sensitivity lower than 2.5 @ 500 dpi when i flick it picks too many things that it shouldn't. Once you get used to zowie lod (and cable, but that's not the case biggrin.gif ) it's so hard to switch.
Edited by atarii - 10/20/15 at 3:37pm
post #878 of 1493
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a little bit of angle snapping?

A little bit?

Either it's quite a bit or something else just feels plain wrong.

Frankenmousers should get it though, great shape.
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post #879 of 1493
I agree with you CorruptBE.
I been trying to use 1000dpi now for a few days, but the precision is garbage.
I use photoshop quite a bit, and it's a horrible experience.
Something is just not right with pixel movements, feels like it jumps here and there irregular.
I used 1000dpi mice before that I had no problems with in Photoshop, but this is just a no go.

First mouse I tried since the G303, and this is not that easy to send back since I bought it from SS. So I will retire it in the graveyard.

Guess I will wait for Roccats new 2 mice and see how they turn out.
post #880 of 1493
I must say this is the funniest video review i have seen in a while...

Ohh yeah and there is something wrong with how cursor moves, feels like really pixels are jumping, an jittery behavior.
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