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post #931 of 1496
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Originally Posted by trhead View Post

We need a new company like Schiit to shake this industry up a bit.
Yeah, we totally need products that may harm or even destroy the users hardware. Surely would shake this industry quite a bit biggrin.gif
post #932 of 1496
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Originally Posted by trism View Post

Yeah, we totally need products that may harm or even destroy the users hardware. Surely would shake this industry quite a bit biggrin.gif

Come on man, that was an isolated issue. They learned their lesson but yeah it sucked for that guy who got his cans destroyed biggrin.gif
post #933 of 1496
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

i can't complain about this mouse for what i paid for it.

people expecting it to compete with mice that cost $60+ is just ridiculous.
this wasn't supposed to be the next best thing its a entry level budget gaming mouse, just like every 3050 entry level gaming mouse thats come before it.

i'm not sure what you were expecting when they revealed the sensor and price point. if you thought it was going to be better than your 3310 or 3366 mouse, i feel sorry for you.

You say that, but the Kana v2 was the same price when released here.
And it's sensor is WAY better at 800dpi. Also the omron clicks are better then these.

So yes it is fair to compare it to several mice that got better 800,1000dpi step then this have.

Also, should you not expect dpi levels to be decent? Or did you go into this thinking "ok 500 dpi step is all that will be good because it's cheap", I doubt anyone thinks that, if they did then I feel sorry for them.
post #934 of 1496
^ Exactly. In many ways this mouse is actually worse than Kana v2. Its disappointing frown.gif
post #935 of 1496
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Originally Posted by Nivity View Post

You say that, but the Kana v2 was the same price when released here.
And it's sensor is WAY better at 800dpi. Also the omron clicks are better then these.

So yes it is fair to compare it to several mice that got better 800,1000dpi step then this have.

Also, should you not expect dpi levels to be decent? Or did you go into this thinking "ok 500 dpi step is all that will be good because it's cheap", I doubt anyone thinks that, if they did then I feel sorry for them.

the kana v2 is one of the worst mice i own. there is no comparison as far as im concerned. ill take the 3059 over the v2 laggy 3090 any day.

not to mention it was never released here so i paid whatever it was from takasa at the time to get it. well over $60.

as far as dpi steps are concerned they are not the best but i can adjust going from 800 to 1000 dpi, just like any good player could.

you still cant compare this to higher end mice though, its not one. id compare this to other 3050 mice, maybe some 3090 if they fall in the same price point.

i like my rival 100, theres things that i dislike about it too and ultimately for me, its filler until the finalmouse ambi releases.

what i got for $35 from steelseries is just about what i expected for something at that price. nothing more. i have over 20 mice in my collection, most of those cost well into the $60+ range so i can sit here and compare it all day if i wanted too.
Edited by discoprince - 10/21/15 at 9:03am
post #936 of 1496
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

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Originally Posted by Nivity View Post

You say that, but the Kana v2 was the same price when released here.
And it's sensor is WAY better at 800dpi. Also the omron clicks are better then these.

So yes it is fair to compare it to several mice that got better 800,1000dpi step then this have.

Also, should you not expect dpi levels to be decent? Or did you go into this thinking "ok 500 dpi step is all that will be good because it's cheap", I doubt anyone thinks that, if they did then I feel sorry for them.

the kana v2 is one of the worst mice i own. there is no comparison as far as im concerned. ill take the 3059 over the v2 laggy 3090 any day.

not to mention it was never released here so i paid whatever it was from takasa at the time to get it. well over $60.

as far as dpi steps are concerned they are not the best but i can adjust going from 800 to 1000 dpi, just like any good player could.

you still cant compare this to higher end mice though, its not one. id compare this to other 3050 mice, maybe some 3090 if they fall in the same price point.

i like my rival 100, theres things that i dislike about it too and ultimately for me, its filler until the finalmouse ambi releases.

what i got for $35 from steelseries is just about what i expected for something at that price. nothing more. i have over 20 mice in my collection, most of those cost well into the $60 range so i can sit here and compare it all day if i wanted too.

Well 800dpi step on Kana v2 is MUCH MUCH better then 1000dpi step on Rival 100.
No lag what so ever (ofc after the Kana v2 firmware update, not the first release)

I expect a decent 1000dpi step for a mouse, even a cheaper "entry level" mouse.
Since other mice had better, like kana v2, mx518,g400 etc etc that was the same or cheaper cost.
Hell, even the G100s 1000dpi step is better imo.

Good that you like it, the fact remains that the 1000dpi step is lacking. And unless you use the mouse @ 500 dpi you get robbed.

I would like to remind that even r0ach praised Kana v2 after the firmware update, and since he is the most OCD on the planet regarding everything cursor related I think the point remains that it's leaps beyond Rival 100 in terms of just that.
Edited by Nivity - 10/21/15 at 9:07am
post #937 of 1496
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Originally Posted by Sencha View Post

Yeah I've not tested at above 500DPI. I can feel that the sensor isn't as nice as a 3310 but in game performance isn't hugely effected and the shape makes up for it. I wouldn't use it as a main mouse though. Purely as I could sacrifice a little on the great shape for a slightly better sensor. In game accuracy still about the same for me over the za11 though. I think this mouse is perfect at what it is....a great budget mouse that's built really really well. Its just I have no budget and I can spend as much as I like on a mouse. So I'd like to spend more and get a better sensor. I'd like to see a Rival 200 that's basically the same with 3310 or better in it. I'd buy that straight away.

This, my thoughts exactly. I played vs two 3366 owners in a duel of quake, i had a hard time with 500dpi, player was experienced, and still won every duel, but during duel i always was thinking what if i took rival 3310 g402 or g303 mouse now, i'd probably would have crushed the opponent.

Funny stuff, it's usable only @ 500dpi, can we expect firmware update anytime soon? I'd love to use 1000/1500 and/or 2000 dpi levels with same 3m/s+ PCS. If Xornet II is gonna be better with it's entry 3320 sensor, gonna sell this SS instantly, though i just love this shape, so good. Loved sensei raw shape, and again, weak sensor inside. Really, i'm starting to believe SS doing this on purpose too, good shapes + weakling sensors
post #938 of 1496
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Originally Posted by trhead View Post

How about some improvements after all these years? Why should a PRO GAMING mouse only be usable at 500cpi? My 2 year old cheap Chinese mice from Aliexpress (mostly A3050 sensors) have the same behavior. How about some proper mouse feet. I'm sick and tired of this industry and this BS. sigh

EDIT: bst had the right idea and vision with Aurora but things just didn't work out for some reason

huh? i use this mouse at 1000 dpi, whats the problem? i still play cs:go, starcraft 2 and all my other games and still perform just as good as i did with any of my 3366 (g502/303) and 3310 mice (the list is too long for this one).

i don't just read forums and go by what other people are saying, like a lot of people do here. i buy the product and see for myself how it works for me. mice are very subjective and most people have different experiences with them.

i've been reading and posting here in the mouse forum for a long, long time. at this point i know who to listen to and who to avoid when it comes to opinions and insight on whats good and what isn't.

the only other 3050 mouse i own, which is the cm storm xornet, i never had any issues with. so i can't say much about your chinese 3050 mice which seem to be of piss poor quality. hardly anything to compare a steelseries mouse to or a cm storm mouse either for that matter. im no fan boy of either btw.

and as far as the industry goes, there doesn't seem to be as much BS as there used to be. with logitech and smaller companies like finalmouse/zowie stepping up and moving away from the dpi wars and laser mice and focusing more on the real issues. of course you could argue the logitech shapes are poor and all the like but the industry is heading in the right direction, compared to say, 5 years ago.

if anything i feel like the RBG wars have taken over the DPI war.
Edited by discoprince - 10/21/15 at 1:34pm
post #939 of 1496
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Originally Posted by trhead View Post

We need a new company like Schiit to shake this industry up a bit.

Yeah, just imagine an 860$ mouse with marketing full of bs, that would be so awesome.

The last thing we need is audiofool style garbage in the mice market, but I think it is already starting, with mice like the finalmouse. There is a lot of people saying that the finalmouse feels so accurate, and, since they are retarded like most people on the internet, they think feel=fact; the finalmouse might be a good mouse, but it has not been proven to be better than any other decent 3310; and it is the same thing with audio, with people saying that flac sounds better than 320mp3, or ******* that spend >1k$ on an amp that isn't objectively better than a 200usd amp.
post #940 of 1496
Audio really depends on what's at the end of the chain and at the source. If these are not up for the task, upgrading things in the middle won't do much.

I'm pretty content with my € 400 amp and HD650 and I don't plan on spending more because sound is one of those things imo, once you're used to a certain quality, you can't go back. I'd rather remain "ignorant" (within the spectrum I have reached) than burn a hole in my wallet atm.

Flac does make a difference, but it's not as huge and tends to be more noticeable on some tracks (upper highs and lowest of lows tend to have a bit more clarity but that's about it).

One a sidenote, high end audio comes with another benefit though: durability. I've been rocking my current setup for over 10 years now smile.gif (and that's with pretty much using it every day, for X hours).
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