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Originally Posted by EK-CEO View Post

Hi, can you share your reasons for disappointment, we are always on the lookout for the improvements - maybe we can satisfy your demand with revisions of the product coming out in the future. thumb.gif

I sort of alluded to this before, but if ekwb just made the predator unit with a thin radiator, it would have (1) helped case compatibility issues and (2) it wouldn't look so awkward. Individually, the Predator AIO looks nice and people's system looks nice, but put them together and IMHO, it looks cramped/ugly. Apparently, the 12mm additional height difference across the top makes a difference. It's like this big bulky box covering the top part of your system, hovering near the cpu area and ram heatspreaders.

The drawback from thick to thin rad is less performance, but that's perfectly fine. If people wanted real top performance, they would've gone with a custom loop or something more exotic. TBH, I don't care if my cpu 1-3 degrees cooler. I *do* care about how my system looks and fits with other components. That's why the Corsair H105 (thick rad) did so poorly in sales, but their 240 and 280 variants (thin rad) sold very well. If the end (pump/res) sticks out, that's also perfectly fine. As long as the main core (rad, fans) is at a comfortable size, I believe it will help a lot of people pick up this aio.

Other possible/secondary ramblings:

-Make it more flexible. Allow users to switch to a push config (rad top, fan bottom) easier (phillips screws) while keeping it thin (that damn metal shroud mad.gif) A kit would allow this flexibility, but I want less stuff (separate pump, res) and less maintenance in my system, not more.

-I heard the pump was noisy and vibrates from a few users. If true, perhaps that could be addressed.

-For installation, why do we have to remove the CPU backplate?

-Not really a con, but I never understood why the unit has to be maintained in 3 years. Isn't this a clean closed loop unit?

Thank you for listening biggrin.gif
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post #1972 of 7180
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Originally Posted by Bjonness406 View Post

I think you have set it to dc (3 pin) instead of pwm (pwm) in the bios menu.

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I just said to hell with the onboard chip and disconnected the three fans and plugged them into 4 port fan controller. Now I can control the fans manually and with the pump, I've left it plugged into the EK chip onboard.

Seems to work fine on my end. Don't even have anything plugged into my cpu header anymore.

Thanks for the suggestions. I have it set to PWM in the BIOS.

I think I'm going to unplug the fans from the Predator and just run them off the motherboard directly. I dunno if maybe my fans are defective or what but my system has no clue how to deal with them while plugged into the Predator's hub. I just need to order some PWM fan extensions and I should be good to go.

Weird thing is I took a 4 pin fan that I'm not using and tested the PC_FAN header and it works just fine. Ramps up and down like it should... I looked for an obvious setting problem in the EFUI but it looks fine. Maybe Fan Xpert is mucking things up, I dunno. I'd hate to reformat just to fix this.

Here's a pic of Fan Xpert for the Predator... why does it have over 2k RPM in each field???

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Edited by wav3form - 11/4/15 at 3:08pm
post #1973 of 7180
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Originally Posted by Wovermars1996 View Post

Yes the directions for the socket should be the same. It's the LGA 115* sockets that need the backplate


Thanks for the help. I'm 90% sure I'm getting one of these now. Just have to make sure it fits in my Switch 810, which should just be a formality. Just need to make sure I didn't forget to factor in anything.




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Originally Posted by halfline View Post

I sort of alluded to this before, but if ekwb just made the predator unit with a thin radiator....

The drawback from thick to thin rad is less performance, but that's perfectly fine. If people wanted real top performance, they would've gone with a custom loop or something more exotic....


I totally disagree. I want the best performance I can get, but frankly I'm way too lazy to screw around with maintaining a custom system. I just want the very best that I can get, set it, and forget it. I'm looking at a Predator specifically because it has a bigger radiator, and better pump than all the other AIO Closed Loops.


Honestly, I don't see why people don't just get bigger cases. A case is often the cheapest part of the PC build. Just spend $50 more and get something huge if you want radiators and stuff. There are tons of AIO coolers with small radiators to choose from already, imo.



Hell, if they had a bigger, 140mm model, that was even thicker, I'd buy that one.



@Wav3form I can't tell whats wrong exactly with your fans, but IME its probably something really simple. Some setting you're overlooking or something. Try going in and reading over *every* setting again, or try changing the fans to a "Profile mode" instead of custom fan curve maybe. I'm really not sure.
Edited by DrSmoke - 11/4/15 at 3:27pm
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on the 240 or 360 are you able to change the fans position top to bottom ??
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QDC GPUs and standalone QDC package will appear in the shop tomorrow 5th. thumbsupsmiley.png

Improved and silent thumb.gif Vardar 140 mm fans will arrive back on stock early next week. Currently only F2 and F3 models. F4 is still being reworked, we are not happy with it yet doh.gif
Standalone QDC Package? If thats the Predator 240 w/ no CPU block and QDCs for QDC GPU that would be amazing! I want to get a QDC block but I dont really want to integrate in the same loop as my Predator 360.
Also I finally built my system in a 780T this past weekend and it fits in Push/Pull no problem! I will post some pics on here and on your case help site as soon as possible! biggrin.gif

Overall performance is amazing Im running at 4.7ghz stable @ 1.35v on my 6700k and idle temps hover around 25-30c while I've never seen it go above 65c under full load. Only complaint I have is that I personally dislike the fact that you guys set up everything connected to the hub because I want to be able to control the fanspeed separately from the pump. This now allows me to run the pump at full speed while the fans are spinning at a low and quiet RPM. So I went ahead and disconnected that from the hub and to my motherboard. I had to snip some plastic zip ties so I hope that did not affect my warranty or anything. Other than that the unit runs amazing and I'm incredibly satisfied with this cooler. I had the H220X before this and I have to say this is absolutely miles better by comparison.
Edited by ChrisxIxCross - 11/4/15 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisxIxCross View Post

Standalone QDC Package? If thats the Predator 240 w/ no CPU block and QDCs for QDC GPU that would be amazing! I want to get a QDC block but I dont really want to integrate in the same loop as my Predator 360.
Also I finally built my system in a 780T this past weekend and it fits in Push/Pull no problem! I will post some pics on here and on your case help site as soon as possible! biggrin.gif

Overall performance is amazing Im running at 4.7ghz stable @ 1.35v on my 6700k and idle temps hover around 25-30c while I've never seen it go above 65c under full load. Only complaint I have is that I personally dislike the fact that you guys set up everything connected to the hub because I want to be able to control the fanspeed separately from the pump. This now allows me to run the pump at full speed while the fans are spinning at a low and quiet RPM. So I went ahead and disconnected that from the hub and to my motherboard. I had to snip some plastic zip ties so I hope that did not affect my warranty or anything. Other than that the unit runs amazing and I'm incredibly satisfied with this cooler. I had the H220X before this and I have to say this is absolutely miles better by comparison.
the radiator is easily better thats the big difference and the fans are a bit better..if i decide to get another aio for another rig it will probably be the 360... its very slick looking
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Thanks for the help. I'm 90% sure I'm getting one of these now. Just have to make sure it fits in my Switch 810, which should just be a formality. Just need to make sure I didn't forget to factor in anything.
I totally disagree. I want the best performance I can get, but frankly I'm way too lazy to screw around with maintaining a custom system. I just want the very best that I can get, set it, and forget it. I'm looking at a Predator specifically because it has a bigger radiator, and better pump than all the other AIO Closed Loops.


Honestly, I don't see why people don't just get bigger cases. A case is often the cheapest part of the PC build. Just spend $50 more and get something huge if you want radiators and stuff. There are tons of AIO coolers with small radiators to choose from already, imo.



Hell, if they had a bigger, 140mm model, that was even thicker, I'd buy that one.



@Wav3form I can't tell whats wrong exactly with your fans, but IME its probably something really simple. Some setting you're overlooking or something. Try going in and reading over *every* setting again, or try changing the fans to a "Profile mode" instead of custom fan curve maybe. I'm really not sure.

Yeah no worries man, thanks for the advice. I checked everything and tried everything and I just can't get the fans to cooperate. They only run top speed. It's probably a faulty Predator hub or fans or who knows... I'll hook the fans up to the mobo directly when I have time tomorrow and see if I can fix things that way.
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Originally Posted by ChrisxIxCross View Post

Standalone QDC Package? If thats the Predator 240 w/ no CPU block and QDCs for QDC GPU that would be amazing! I want to get a QDC block but I dont really want to integrate in the same loop as my Predator 360.
Also I finally built my system in a 780T this past weekend and it fits in Push/Pull no problem! I will post some pics on here and on your case help site as soon as possible! biggrin.gif

Overall performance is amazing Im running at 4.7ghz stable @ 1.35v on my 6700k and idle temps hover around 25-30c while I've never seen it go above 65c under full load. Only complaint I have is that I personally dislike the fact that you guys set up everything connected to the hub because I want to be able to control the fanspeed separately from the pump. This now allows me to run the pump at full speed while the fans are spinning at a low and quiet RPM. So I went ahead and disconnected that from the hub and to my motherboard. I had to snip some plastic zip ties so I hope that did not affect my warranty or anything. Other than that the unit runs amazing and I'm incredibly satisfied with this cooler. I had the H220X before this and I have to say this is absolutely miles better by comparison.
What sort of performance difference are you getting between the h220x and the 360 ?
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What sort of performance difference are you getting between the h220x and the 360 ?
Im not entirely sure since I switched from X99 5820k to Z170 6700K. I was running the 5820k 1.28v @ 4.2ghz and I was idling in the 40s, and full load was in the 70s.
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My 5820k has been running for 15 min @4.5mhz at 1.335v highest temp I've seen on my 360 is 62c

Still overclocking it . Well say where it ends up tomorrow



Edited by Alpina 7 - 11/4/15 at 10:56pm
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