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Has anyone had good experience with mounting a Predator in a vertical position so the pump/reservoir is located in the top? Somehow my logic tells me a pump would possibly make less noise when placed at the bottom, simply because of gravity. It seems to me that it would be better to push water up than pulling it up. I'm asking this technical question since I'm looking to acquire a new chassis where I'd want the Predator to be mounted in the front of the case (imagine Fractal Define S or Phanteks Evolv ATX). It's just a lot easier to mount it with the pump located in the top due to tubing length.

Ok so before anyone says the obvious: "Why not just mount it in the top of the case and be done with it"? Good question! However that would require way more fans in order to keep a positive static pressure in the case. This way I can get away with 3 x 120mm intake and one 140mm exhaust fan.

I have it in the front (360) with the pump on the bottom in a define S. Tube is very tight and *just* reaches the cpu block, mounting was a bit hard because of the tube length. I thought mounting the pump on top was a no go? Its on exhaust now though. Dindt want to Flip/rewire all those fans and barely have space on top. Temps are ok.
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Originally Posted by Menno View Post

I have it in the front (360) with the pump on the bottom in a define S. Tube is very tight and *just* reaches the cpu block, mounting was a bit hard because of the tube length. I thought mounting the pump on top was a no go? Its on exhaust now though. Dindt want to Flip/rewire all those fans and barely have space on top. Temps are ok.

According to the manual it can be mounted both ways in a vertical position. It's just that having the pump at the bottom, will require a lot of extra work with the Phanteks Evolv ATX case. I would have to disassemble the tubing and route it through one of the cable grommets in the bottom of the case.
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I think you can connect the fans directly to your motherboard headers or a fan controller rather then the 360 or 280 itself. Then control them from there or your motherboard bios or software. biggrin.gif
    
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Guys I could really use some help as I'm at loss here... I think I'm having cooling issues with my Rev 1.1 360 as, with Tamb of 17°C, and only a 4770k@stock 1.14V, I'm reaching 78° C on Prime95 smallft with fans at 50% (1200Rpms), which kinda get loud. I know this is a sinthetic benchmark but I still expected much better cooling given that some reviews are reporting 67°C top with a 4970K@1.3V and inaudibleness while Priming95.

When I add the TitanX in the loop I reach 80° During gaming sessions (witcher3 I.e.) in the whole LCS ( both cpu and gpu)

I tried switching the fans to intake but there hasn't been an appreciable change; oddly enough I do not remember such high temps while on REV 1.0...

Also I'm unable to troubleshoot the issue as fans and pump (other than being noisy) seem in order.
Any help or ideas are appreciated.
Edited by NIGos - 2/4/16 at 3:51am
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Originally Posted by d0mmie View Post

Has anyone had good experience with mounting a Predator in a vertical position so the pump/reservoir is located in the top...

I have Fractal Design S case and have installed the Predator 360 in the front position. Pump, reservoir and tubes on the top, fan and pump connectors on the bottom. No problems whatsoever.

Originally I had the radiator on the top, but since I flipped the fans (now they pull air in and push it through the radiator) I wanted to use the case's dust filter. The "hot air" is pushed out from the case in the back (Noctua) and through the last moduvent (Noctua).
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Originally Posted by SeoulFinn View Post

I have Fractal Design S case and have installed the Predator 360 in the front position. Pump, reservoir and tubes on the top, fan and pump connectors on the bottom. No problems whatsoever.

Originally I had the radiator on the top, but since I flipped the fans (now they pull air in and push it through the radiator) I wanted to use the case's dust filter. The "hot air" is pushed out from the case in the back (Noctua) and through the last moduvent (Noctua).

Thank you for the info. That's what I wanted to hear. Did you by any chance get better temps when flipping the fans?
post #3747 of 6941
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Originally Posted by NIGos View Post

Guys I could really use some help as I'm at loss here... I think I'm having cooling issues with my Rev 1.1 360 as, with Tamb of 17°C, and only a 4770k@stock 1.14V, I'm reaching 78° C on Prime95 smallft with fans at 50% (1200Rpms), which kinda get loud. I know this is a sinthetic benchmark but I still expected much better cooling given that some reviews are reporting 67°C top with a 4970K@1.3V and inaudibleness while Priming95.

When I add the TitanX in the loop I reach 80° During gaming sessions (witcher3 I.e.) in the whole LCS ( both cpu and gpu)

I tried switching the fans to intake but there hasn't been an appreciable change; oddly enough I do not remember such high temps while on REV 1.0...

Also I'm unable to troubleshoot the issue as fans and pump (other than being noisy) seem in order.
Any help or ideas are appreciated.

I would recommend to maybe controlling the pump on its own, the pump header is the first 1, plug it into the CPU header though, and then you have to remember when you put the 2 pin PWM header in the chassis header that in the BIOS that you change it to PWM from DC otherwise like mine it decided to run full speed all the time. By having control of the pump separatly you might be able to lower the temps without causing much more noise with the fans.

If this doesnt work check that the loop hasnt got any trapped air inside, because there may be some air trapped inside the CPU block which is causing the higher then normal temps, just tip the case at wierd angles to help the bubbles go to the res. Finally if that doesnt work try aida64 instead of prime95, i find that aida64 produces a really good synthetic reading, and tell me what happens.
post #3748 of 6941
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Originally Posted by d0mmie View Post

Thank you for the info. That's what I wanted to hear. Did you by any chance get better temps when flipping the fans?

The difference was within few C, but I don't exactly remember which way. My temps may not be comparable with yours, as I have GPU (Fury X) in the loop as well and I have replaced the Vardar fans with Corsair SP120mm Quiet Editions.

One thing comes to my mind. The wire from the fan connector/hub to mobo's CPU connector was too short to hide/route nicely. If I wanted to hide it, I would have to get longer cable or an extension for the current one.
post #3749 of 6941
Can someone link me the default fan curve for the EK Predator

Also what fan curve do you guys use
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Today, I just got my replacement motherboard from Asus, who claimed "customer damage". I had to pay almost $150 CAD once taxes where added, plus a tank of gas back and forth three times.

I install the replacement 360, no issues. I install my Asus R9 290X graphics card with the EK waterblock quick connect.

I am checking everything to make sure all is secure. I didn't notice the bloody leak coming from my graphics card where the connection is. Its dripping all over and into my power supply. Not that I can turn on my computer now anyways, as I don't have on board graphics.

So, I clean up as best I can, after disconnecting the quick connect to the cpu out quick connect, (that's only when it leaks). Place some paper towel, and try again. I am attaching a picture of the leak.

The only thing this AIO graphics card water block has done is been taken out of my computer, and put back into my computer. If this little movement and action can cause a leak, I suspect EK has bigger problems coming.

I am really disappointed. If this was a custom loop, I accept the risk. An AIO with expansion capabilities, well, I don't expect this. I haven't even bothered talking to EK about my motherboard becoming a pile of dead PCB, I can just imagine the hoops I am going to have to climb through. Now I am paranoid my power supply is going to have issues, and only God knows if the leak actually penetrated my graphics card. I don't see how it could, but, with this disaster, who knows.

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