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I'm torn between the AIO Predator 360 and the 280 with QDC. I'm not sure what the major differences are between the pump on the 360 (Laing DDC3.1 6W) versus the 280 (EK-SPC 60A). I will only have the CPU block and GPU block. I wont be OCing my CPU (6700k) much, but I do OC my GPU (980 ti) about 250Mhz. I won't be adding a reservoir or anything additional components to the loop.

My main concern is noise
. Guru3D had an article showing the two AIOs are within ~2 dBA of each other. (Article here: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/ek_xlc_predator_280_aio_cpu_gpu_liquid_cooling_review,11.html)

Considering I am doing a simple loop and going with QDC, what is my better option? Is it better to have the bigger radiator or the newer pump?
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I have horrible luck. Bought this used so unfortunately no warranty. The outlet on my radiator seems to be stripped and leaking so I might have to throw it out. I wonder if threadlocker tape would do anything Here is the video of the leak https://vid.me/9zSg
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Originally Posted by kuwlness View Post

I'm torn between the AIO Predator 360 and the 280 with QDC. I'm not sure what the major differences are between the pump on the 360 (Laing DDC3.1 6W) versus the 280 (EK-SPC 60A). I will only have the CPU block and GPU block. I wont be OCing my CPU (6700k) much, but I do OC my GPU (980 ti) about 250Mhz. I won't be adding a reservoir or anything additional components to the loop.

My main concern is noise
. Guru3D had an article showing the two AIOs are within ~2 dBA of each other. (Article here: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/ek_xlc_predator_280_aio_cpu_gpu_liquid_cooling_review,11.html)

Considering I am doing a simple loop and going with QDC, what is my better option? Is it better to have the bigger radiator or the newer pump?

What case do you have? Most cases that can fit the 360 will fit the 280. Very few cases can fit the 280 but not the 360.

That said, the pumps are very similar. I believe the EK has a better flow rate at lower rpms while the DDC has slightly better top end. Nothing major, though. Both are good pumps.

I wouldn't take G3D's reviews very seriously. They are known for copy-pasting numbers from reviews that are months old. Too much variability to take them seriously. However, their thermal images are helpful.

As a 280 owner, I can say it is silent on idle (550rpm), and I'm sure the 360 is similar, though the third fan will add a bit more noise over two in most scenarios.

Both will be able to cool a stock cpu and overclocked 980ti well. If you keep the volts down, I don't see why the cpu couldn't be overclocked, particularly the mainstream chips.

Paul did a video on the 280 with a cpu+gpu. Maybe that will help you out.

All in all, flip a coin. Can't go wrong with either thumb.gif
post #5754 of 7180
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Originally Posted by airisom2 View Post

What case do you have? Most cases that can fit the 360 will fit the 280. Very few cases can fit the 280 but not the 360.

That said, the pumps are very similar. I believe the EK has a better flow rate at lower rpms while the DDC has slightly better top end. Nothing major, though. Both are good pumps.

I wouldn't take G3D's reviews very seriously. They are known for copy-pasting numbers from reviews that are months old. Too much variability to take them seriously. However, their thermal images are helpful.

As a 280 owner, I can say it is silent on idle (550rpm), and I'm sure the 360 is similar, though the third fan will add a bit more noise over two in most scenarios.

Both will be able to cool a stock cpu and overclocked 980ti well. If you keep the volts down, I don't see why the cpu couldn't be overclocked, particularly the mainstream chips.

Paul did a video on the 280 with a cpu+gpu. Maybe that will help you out.

All in all, flip a coin. Can't go wrong with either thumb.gif

I'm using the Fractal Design Define S and I want to front-mount the AIO. The 360 will fit fine. I might push the 6700k to 4.6GHz with around 1.3v OC. I'm also pushing an extra 15mV to the GPU.

I've always heard to get the biggest radiator you can fit in your case. But with EK putting in a new pump, I assumed there was a reason to justify that and that they determined it was either a) more efficient, or b) cost efficient for production.

Guess I can't really go wrong with either. Just don't want to hear the pump. Can control the Fans and Pump via PWM I imagine?
post #5755 of 7180
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Originally Posted by ivoryg37 View Post

I have horrible luck. Bought this used so unfortunately no warranty. The outlet on my radiator seems to be stripped and leaking so I might have to throw it out. I wonder if threadlocker tape would do anything Here is the video of the leak https://vid.me/9zSg
Thread locker tape may work for that. It doesn't hurt to try. One other thing you may want to try is get some waterproof epoxy and set it all in place, let it dry and see if it leaks then. Unfortunately either of those methods will make it extremely difficult to change the tubing at a later date. But if you can find an extension piece to epoxy in place then you could just run the tube from that.... Just ideas, maybe someone else has better ones.
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post #5756 of 7180
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Originally Posted by kuwlness View Post

I'm using the Fractal Design Define S and I want to front-mount the AIO. The 360 will fit fine. I might push the 6700k to 4.6GHz with around 1.3v OC. I'm also pushing an extra 15mV to the GPU.

I've always heard to get the biggest radiator you can fit in your case. But with EK putting in a new pump, I assumed there was a reason to justify that and that they determined it was either a) more efficient, or b) cost efficient for production.

Guess I can't really go wrong with either. Just don't want to hear the pump. Can control the Fans and Pump via PWM I imagine?

They should perform very similar since the radiator surface area is almost the same. But I would guess that the 280 might be a bit quieter.
I used the 360 to cool a 5820k @ 4.5GHz and a 980Ti (now a 1080) and it worked great in the front of the Define S.
post #5757 of 7180
Has anyone fitted Predator 360 onto the Corsair Carbide Series® Clear 400C? Trying to look for a smaller case than the Define S, anything literally, that can fit the 360.
post #5758 of 7180
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Originally Posted by HC1994 View Post

Has anyone fitted Predator 360 onto the Corsair Carbide Series® Clear 400C? Trying to look for a smaller case than the Define S, anything literally, that can fit the 360.

Define S is already pretty small. Maybe better consider the 280 Predator for the Corsair 400C.
post #5759 of 7180
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Originally Posted by Dschijn View Post

Define S is already pretty small. Maybe better consider the 280 Predator for the Corsair 400C.

Yes I understand that but I want a smaller case... So can someone who have tried point to me if it does or not?
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Originally Posted by HC1994 View Post

Yes I understand that but I want a smaller case... So can someone who have tried point to me if it does or not?

It won't fit. Although the 360 could fit in the 600c, EK does not recommend bottom mounting their predator units.

The rosewill rise could work, but its not that much smaller than the define s. The DS is deeper while the rise is taller. It will support a predator 280 up top with room to spare and the predator 360 up front with both in at the same time. However, for the size, the DS is one of the most water coolers friendly cases out there.

Due to the thickness of these units, you're limited to larger mid tower cases and some full towers. Most mid towers only have clearance for slim aio rads (talking about top mounting), if that. You will have better chances finding a smaller case that can front mount the 280. Just remember to give yourself some room up top for the pump/res/tubing and up front for the graphics card(s).
Edited by airisom2 - 10/9/16 at 6:52am
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