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this is overclock.net 90 percent of the people will be overclocking...that's why I said that...stock...bah lol

Don't worry I know smile.gif

I've been here for a while. But my point is still standing. Even if you OC your CPU and your GPU, the 360 will still do a good job. I previously put an OC'ed 5820K and 2 OC'ed Titan X on a single 360 rad and the temps where very acceptable. thumb.gif
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See page 23 of the manual: https://shop.ekwb.com/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109863350.pdf



I once had a 4770K which shoot over 100°C instantly on Prime95 /w AVX, on factory settings! That chip required delid and ran afterwards much colder, around 45°C on load and 75°C overclocked.

The other 4770K I had didn't break into 70°C's on 4.8GHz @ 1.27V.

Man, I dont' think I can stomache popping the lid off of a 300+ dollar CPU I just bought cause Intel are idiots. 4.4ghz is fine for me, screw it, nothing this CPU isn't already handling 29-384023745 times better than my 8350.


Also, those uh mounting screws for the way....1155? Whatever weird socket it is. I don't need them and never well, is any unfortunate soul on here in need of them? You pay postage, and they're yours.
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Maybe its just me, but isn't this AIO kit technically more expensive once you begin to expand the unit over just buying the L240 kit?

I guess that depends on the cost of the parts you expand with. The base kit price for the Predator is lower than the L240 but if you decided to add an external reservoir the prices start to even out. The 360 kit and AIO are pretty close in price so it will depend on the cost of the plug in expansion parts. If you aren't expanding with "pre-fill" parts then the cost to expand is the same between the two. Unless you really want a larger/prettier reservoir it is cheaper to get the AIO to start with.
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Based on the 240 recommendations for expanding


The L240 is only $25 more, yet it inlcudes about 60inches more tubing, plenty of coolant, a external reservoir/pump for ease of use, and the Ek-atx bridging plug. All which (recommended) to purchase additionally for expansion on the unit.

The Predator 360 makes less sense as your still short on having extra coolant, extra tubing, ek-atx bridging plug, and external reservoir/pump(if you choose to not go with prefilled qdc parts) that the L360 kit provides for $10 more... Also depends how QDC is setup. Even with prefilled blocks with QDC how can they be sure what length of tubing they'll need to supply each prefilled unit to satisfy each customer. Either well get customers with too long of hoses or too short. Which will have to be cut or extended which defeats the purpose of QDC. Maybe i worry or over analyze things, idk. tongue.gif

Granted all these price analysis are based on EK recommendations. I know there's cheaper alternatives, but I'm going strickly what they are recommending customers purchase to expand their units.
Edited by ZWingerRyRy - 9/23/15 at 2:08pm
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Based on the 240 recommendations for expanding


The L240 is only $25 more, yet it inlcudes about 60inches more tubing, plenty of coolant, a external reservoir/pump for ease of use, and the Ek-atx bridging plug. All which (recommended) to purchase additionally for expansion on the unit.

The Predator 360 makes less sense as your still short on having extra coolant, extra tubing, ek-atx bridging plug, and external reservoir/pump(if you choose to not go with prefilled qdc parts) that the L360 kit provides for $10 more... Also depends how QDC is setup. Even with prefilled blocks with QDC how can they be sure what length of tubing they'll need to supply each prefilled unit to satisfy each customer. Either well get customers with too long of hoses or too short. Which will have to be cut or extended which defeats the purpose of QDC. Maybe i worry or over analyze things, idk. tongue.gif

Granted all these price analysis are based on EK recommendations. I know there's cheaper alternatives, but I'm going strickly what they are recommending customers purchase to expand their units.

Very true. The convenience factor is what you are paying extra for. It most definitely should be cheaper to do it yourself than to have someone do it for you, this case doesn't seem to be any different.
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Maybe its just me, but isn't this AIO kit technically more expensive once you begin to expand the unit over just buying the L240 kit?

Edit: ^Just saw this, so... Exactly. biggrin.gif

Primary response: Purchase another AIO and try expanding it.

Sure it can be done. With some intestinal fortitude most anything can be done.

However, EK provides you with tried and tested components for less than what it would cost to build a CPU loop. Add on are always going to be extra. Whether on another brand AIO or the Predator.

Back a few pages I compiled a list of the components and the cost ($US) of the parts. It would cost around $400 to build something comparable (360) using EK brand specific parts. A 360 CPU loop is not cheap, but EK did a fantastic job compiling these parts and putting a $250 msrp on it.

Shipping is extra of course so given the variables of shipping I did not account for that. So for contiguous 48 US states tack on another $50 to my list of necessary components to build a custom loop. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
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Edit: ^Just saw this, so... Exactly. biggrin.gif

Primary response: Purchase another AIO and try expanding it.

Sure it can be done. With some intestinal fortitude most anything can be done.

However, EK provides you with tried and tested components for less than what it would cost to build a CPU loop. Add on are always going to be extra. Whether on another brand AIO or the Predator.

Back a few pages I compiled a list of the components and the cost ($US) of the parts. It would cost around $400 to build something comparable (360) using EK brand specific parts. A 360 CPU loop is not cheap, but EK did a fantastic job compiling these parts and putting a $250 msrp on it.

Shipping is extra of course so given the variables of shipping I did not account for that. So for contiguous 48 US states tack on another $50 to my list of necessary components to build a custom loop. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

The L360(Ek specific) is 249.99.
The Predator 360 is 239.99.
Indivudal part picking yes you can exceed this, but the L360 is basically same parts as the Predator 360 besides QDC. Granted you get more with the L360 kit for $10 more. I'm basing this off the fact the L240/360 comes more equip for expansion needs vs their AIO counterparts for a tad more. To expand the AIO your technically spending more as things you require to expand them are already given with the L240/360 kits.
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Labor charges man- assembling, filling, bleeding and leak testing takes time and man hours. I know what you mean about the kit being a better buy for you but this is targeted more for mainstream users who just want a good cooler with no fuss of custom loops.
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Labor charges man- assembling, filling, bleeding and leak testing takes time and man hours. I know what you mean about the kit being a better buy for you but this is targeted more for mainstream users who just want a good cooler with no fuss of custom loops.

Right, for a aio its the best. For the price it should be, but everyone is buying this with intentions of expanding. Expanding the aio will still require filling, bleeding, and leak testing
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Labor charges man- assembling, filling, bleeding and leak testing takes time and man hours. I know what you mean about the kit being a better buy for you but this is targeted more for mainstream users who just want a good cooler with no fuss of custom loops.

PTSD lol!
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