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I really dislike the fact that the Predator comes with only a 2 year warranty. The price premium of this unit seems to be saying "Quality", so it would be good if they actually stood by that and gave it a better warranty. Corsair has a 5 year and Swiftech has a 3. It's kind of silly in that the cheapest (Corsair) has the longest warranty while the most expensive (EK) has the shortest warranty.

Honestly, the 240 seems like a really hard sell to me. The 360 is slightly more but comes with QDCs for vastly improved ease of expandability, 3rd fan and 50% more cooling potentional. It really doesn't make sense to get the 240 if you plan on expanding as it won't have the cooling capability to cool an overclocked CPU and GPU properly (I understand that it WILL do it, but it is not a good idea if you want to push for top clocks). So if you're going to get the 240 and not expand, the Corsair/NZXT/CM kits seem a better deal.
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Originally Posted by Bojamijams View Post

I really dislike the fact that the Predator comes with only a 2 year warranty. The price premium of this unit seems to be saying "Quality", so it would be good if they actually stood by that and gave it a better warranty. Corsair has a 5 year and Swiftech has a 3. It's kind of silly in that the cheapest (Corsair) has the longest warranty while the most expensive (EK) has the shortest warranty.

Honestly, the 240 seems like a really hard sell to me. The 360 is slightly more but comes with QDCs for vastly improved ease of expandability, 3rd fan and 50% more cooling potentional. It really doesn't make sense to get the 240 if you plan on expanding as it won't have the cooling capability to cool an overclocked CPU and GPU properly (I understand that it WILL do it, but it is not a good idea if you want to push for top clocks). So if you're going to get the 240 and not expand, the Corsair/NZXT/CM kits seem a better deal.

Corsairs warranty is most likely longer as they are a bigger company and as you said its cheaper to replace the cooler.

The 240s value to me would be that the rad has a built in pump/res and so could fit in a sff case.
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Corsairs warranty is most likely longer as they are a bigger company and as you said its cheaper to replace the cooler.

The 240s value to me would be that the rad has a built in pump/res and so could fit in a sff case.

I don't have an SFF case so excuse the ignorance, but why wouldn't a Corsair (for example) kit fit? Their radiator is both thinner and shorter due to the pump being on the block.
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Originally Posted by Bojamijams View Post

I really dislike the fact that the Predator comes with only a 2 year warranty. The price premium of this unit seems to be saying "Quality", so it would be good if they actually stood by that and gave it a better warranty. Corsair has a 5 year and Swiftech has a 3. It's kind of silly in that the cheapest (Corsair) has the longest warranty while the most expensive (EK) has the shortest warranty.

Honestly, the 240 seems like a really hard sell to me. The 360 is slightly more but comes with QDCs for vastly improved ease of expandability, 3rd fan and 50% more cooling potentional. It really doesn't make sense to get the 240 if you plan on expanding as it won't have the cooling capability to cool an overclocked CPU and GPU properly (I understand that it WILL do it, but it is not a good idea if you want to push for top clocks). So if you're going to get the 240 and not expand, the Corsair/NZXT/CM kits seem a better deal.

The corsairs AIOs are like any other Asetek/CoolIT AIO... a piece off... ... weelllll not that good really

Corsair being a much bigger company as EK (and Swiftech) can afford putting up a longer warranty, because they ship a lot more volume. What's more, since they dont have to publish how many warranty replacements they've done, they can keep up the image of value for money and thus keeping up sales numbers. Also, putting forward a long warranty fools the customer into thinking (s)he is buying a quality product. As far as anybody can guess, Corsair may have 10% or 40% or 80% warranty cases, and might be honouring only 1% of them.. we dont know for sure.

For a much smaller company like EK, the "number of acceptable losses" is much smaller and if the Predator turns out to be "problematic" the overal (financial) impact would be larger in comparison to Corsair. Not to mention that they would get burned down with a vengeance on a lot of sites & a lot of forums. The fallout might spread into their regular Custom loop sales. Corsair cares a lot less about that because they are still selling Memory, SSDs, Fans, not-so-fantastic-PC-cases, etc. And Corsair is still sailing on the good reputation they've gained when most of the stuff they did/make was good/quality.

What may also play a role for EK.... i think that the legal minimum warranty in Europe is TWO years smile.gif



Note: not saying Corsair is making bad stuff.. just that they are no longer producing all of the good/quality stuff they once did.

As for one other important difference between Asetek/CoolIT AIO's and EK, Swiftech & a few others... performance.. in the same load scenario, with the same fans, a COPPER rad will always outperform an ALU rad smile.gif
post #955 of 7195
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I don't have an SFF case so excuse the ignorance, but why wouldn't a Corsair (for example) kit fit? Their radiator is both thinner and shorter due to the pump being on the block.

I meant compared to a custom loop it'll fit better if you only have room for a 240 rad, it'll also fit better than swiftechs design and unlike corsairs implementation it's expandable.
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Would it be viable to have the fans pull air through the rad rather than push? That is looking like its the only way i could fit this into my case.

I may just have to go with another solution sadly.
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Would it be viable to have the fans pull air through the rad rather than push? That is looking like its the only way i could fit this into my case.

I may just have to go with another solution sadly.

The fans are already pull
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The fans are already pull

Oh wow. Didn't even realize that. Well, looks like this is a no go for this case. It's just too long from what information i can gather.


Can someone, before they install, measure the distance from the edges to the mounting holes please?

EDIT: Nevermind. This cooler will not fit in my case. Bummer.
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Oh wow. Didn't even realize that. Well, looks like this is a no go for this case. It's just too long from what information i can gather.


Can someone, before they install, measure the distance from the edges to the mounting holes please?

EDIT: Nevermind. This cooler will not fit in my case. Bummer.

Ya I think it wouldn't fit just cause of the space issue anyways.

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That's a thinner radiator and it's already almost bumping up against the cpu block.
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just ordered 240


time to lay the old corsair 100 to rest
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