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Originally Posted by HatallaS View Post

I asked them the question and they said that the pump is strong enough for all of that and a reservoir.
Been a 240, your temps won't be amazing, and probably not much lower than on air but at least it should be quieter.

Thanks for the speedy reply.
So what would be the smallest rad I could add to this loop to get cooler temps?
And will the pump be strong enough for all of that? a second rad and a single res?
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Originally Posted by Jyve View Post

When does the free shipping end on pre-orders of the 360? 240 free shipping g is over right?

PS. Anyone put this in an arc mini r2 yet?

Free Shipping on the 240 as ended and for the 360 it will be up until October 18th thumb.gif

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The EK-XLC Predator 240 also loses to both Swiftech kits in terms of noise.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EKWB/Predator_240/7.html

There's another review here
http://www.legitreviews.com/ekwb-predator-240-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler-review_171968/6
and considering it's size and price the EK kit is rather disappointing.

EK height is 68mm vs Swiftech 54mm. Swiftech has an acrylic window so it's easy to check the waterlevel. It's also easier to refill Swiftech as EK has located the blind on the top of the tank....how is a user supposed to access it? Drill a hole? If so the blind should either raise above the toppanel or EK should have included a FillPort to replace the blind.

Resellers will need to double the inventory of EK fullcoverblocks with QDC versions, will they do that? What about waterblocks for MB and RAM, will they also be offered with QDC?

It's either an oversized AIO kit or a badly designed custom kit. It's certainly not the hybrid kit EK wanted it to be.

The window is only for the show since a prefilled sealed AIO with quality tubing shouldn't evaporate it's coolant. To refill and it drain, the best is to remove the Predator from the PC. This one of the advantage of an AIO smile.gif

The resellers will choose which prefilled GPU blocks they want to have in their inventory.
Usually they will only keep the ones for the reference blocks. But in our Webshop, we will offer a much wider range of prefilled GPU blocks.
We don't intend to have prefilled mobo or ram blocks.

The Predator is exactly what we wanted it to be.

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Originally Posted by qvist View Post

Is the pump replaceable on these? I mean if the pump dies, can you easily replace it?

Yes you can thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by dave7970 View Post

Hi all,
Ok, so I have a Predator 240 from Ek on the way and am pretty excited as this is my first step to a custom loop.
I currently have a Maximus VI Formula, and I just ordered an EVGA 980 ti Hydro Copper.
I want to loop the motherboard and GPU to the Predator 240 which I know can be done since they all use G1/4" fittings.
But my question is, will the Predator 240 be able to expand to having both the motherboard and gpu in the loop without having to get another pump and reservoir?

link to the ekwb predator 240: https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-xlc-predator-240
link to the graphics card: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-499...
link to my motherboard: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_FORMULA...

Im hoping that cooling the processor, motherboard and gpu will not require me to have to put additional reservoirs and pumps in the loop, but if i need to incorporate another pump or reservior will someone link me to a modest pump/res combo that will work in my loop? (preferably from ek)

Also, im looking at an evga power supply: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=220-P2-100...
to power the whole thing. Will the 1000w platinum be sufficient? If not can someone direct me to a better suited power supply?
It must be EVGA since my 980 ti classifieds came with the "up to %50 off select power supply" coupon

Also, all of this is going to be done in an NZXT s340 so space is definitely an issue.
Im looking for advice, tips, and any other knowlege concerning my particular setup.



Thanks for any and all help.

The Predator pump will handle this but I must say that using a 240 rad for a CPU, GPU and MOBO loop is not ideal. A 360 would have already be better but since you already bought the 240, and considering the fact that you have an S340, the only other possible upgrade would be to add a single 120mm rad on the rear.
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Free Shipping on the 240 as ended and for the 360 it will be up until October 18th thumb.gif
The window is only for the show since a prefilled sealed AIO with quality tubing shouldn't evaporate it's coolant. To refill and it drain, the best is to remove the Predator from the PC. This one of the advantage of an AIO smile.gif

The resellers will choose which prefilled GPU blocks they want to have in their inventory.
Usually they will only keep the ones for the reference blocks. But in our Webshop, we will offer a much wider range of prefilled GPU blocks.
We don't intend to have prefilled mobo or ram blocks.

The Predator is exactly what we wanted it to be.
Yes you can thumb.gif
The Predator pump will handle this but I must say that using a 240 rad for a CPU, GPU and MOBO loop is not ideal. A 360 would have already be better but since you already bought the 240, and considering the fact that you have an S340, the only other possible upgrade would be to add a single 120mm rad on the rear.
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Originally Posted by akira749 View Post

Free Shipping on the 240 as ended and for the 360 it will be up until October 18th thumb.gif
The window is only for the show since a prefilled sealed AIO with quality tubing shouldn't evaporate it's coolant. To refill and it drain, the best is to remove the Predator from the PC. This one of the advantage of an AIO smile.gif

The resellers will choose which prefilled GPU blocks they want to have in their inventory.
Usually they will only keep the ones for the reference blocks. But in our Webshop, we will offer a much wider range of prefilled GPU blocks.
We don't intend to have prefilled mobo or ram blocks.

The Predator is exactly what we wanted it to be.
Yes you can thumb.gif
The Predator pump will handle this but I must say that using a 240 rad for a CPU, GPU and MOBO loop is not ideal. A 360 would have already be better but since you already bought the 240, and considering the fact that you have an S340, the only other possible upgrade would be to add a single 120mm rad on the rear.

So if I add another 120 rad do you think I will get cooler temps? And also, do you think I will need to add more liquid to what already comes in the predator, or is what comes already prefilled enough for for the 3 blocks and the additional rad?
And what about the fans that will go on the rads?
Is there a controllable fan hub; (since I cant use a 5.25 bay controller); that I can use to keep the whole thing as quiet as possible?

Thanks for the help
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Wow, pre-filled gpu blocks... who'd a thunk?

> So if I add another 120 rad do you think I will get cooler temps?

Probably, general rule of thumb, a 120 for baseline, then add another 120 for every significant heat source. So cpu only 2x120. Cpu and gpu, 3x120.

> And what about the fans that will go on the rads? Is there a controllable fan hub?

I think the pwm splitter built into the predator supports 3 fans. Its the same splitter used on the 360 which has 3 fans. Your extra rad fan plug in there. Plug the predator into the CPU_FAN header and that pwm signal will be split and control the speed of the 3 rad fans and pump. The splitter does not rely on the CPU_FAN header for power, it draws power directly from the psu thru a single cable, that power is then distributed to the 3 fans and pump.

I think having that all built into the rad+pump+res assembly is pretty slick, 2 cables coming out of the whole thing, one goes to the cpu_fan header and the other to the psu.
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Wow, pre-filled gpu blocks... who'd a thunk?

> So if I add another 120 rad do you think I will get cooler temps?

Probably, general rule of thumb, a 120 for baseline, then add another 120 for every significant heat source. So cpu only 2x120. Cpu and gpu, 3x120.

> And what about the fans that will go on the rads? Is there a controllable fan hub?

I think the pwm splitter built into the predator supports 3 fans. Its the same splitter used on the 360 which has 3 fans. Your extra rad fan plug in there. Plug the predator into the CPU_FAN header and that pwm signal will be split and control the speed of the 3 rad fans and pump. The splitter does not rely on the CPU_FAN header for power, it draws power directly from the psu thru a single cable, that power is then distributed to the 3 fans and pump.

I think having that all built into the rad+pump+res assembly is pretty slick, 2 cables coming out of the whole thing, one goes to the cpu_fan header and the other to the psu.
Ok, so Im gong to order another 120mm rad from ek, hopefully one that is copper.
The loop will have 1 120mm rad, 1 240mm rad, a cpu block, a gpu black, and the "hybrid cooler" that comes on the formula vi.
We now know that the pump that comes with the unit is adequate for all of this, good.
But, will I need more liquid and maybe a res?
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Ok, so Im gong to order another 120mm rad from ek, hopefully one that is copper.
The loop will have 1 120mm rad, 1 240mm rad, a cpu block, a gpu black, and the "hybrid cooler" that comes on the formula vi.
We now know that the pump that comes with the unit is adequate for all of this, good.
But, will I need more liquid and maybe a res?

You'd have to open the loop up to bring the extra rad and block in. I don't see how that could be done without draining then refilling with more liquid that was drained. I'd keep what was drained and then add as much extra distilled water as needed when refilling. I don't know about the res? If you do need to add a res, ala cart components might have been a better choice?
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It would still probably be a good idea to get some sort of small reservoir so you can monitor the water level. Once you open it up, it'll eventually go down.
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It would still probably be a good idea to get some sort of small reservoir so you can monitor the water level. Once you open it up, it'll eventually go down.

It'll eventually go down no matter what since a small amount of evaporation will occur thru the tubing.
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Guess I'm ignorant on that but thought that was the selling point of all in ones since it's a closed loop and you don't really lose water? How are people supposed to know when it's empty than since there's no way to view.

Got a better picture of it

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Edited by SpykeZ - 9/27/15 at 3:22pm
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It would still probably be a good idea to get some sort of small reservoir so you can monitor the water level. Once you open it up, it'll eventually go down.
yea. So im really eyeballing the one 140mm rad that ek sells.
Im 98% sure imma get it since it has alot of copper and is from the same series as the 240 rad that comes with the predator.
as for a res, can someone post a link to a good res that i should use for this loop.
And lastly, what about the res that comes with the predator? If I get a stand alone res wouldnt it be redundant to still keep the stock res in the loop?
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