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Is the "Free Windows 10 Upgrade" worth it in terms of it being a substantially better OS?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 15 62.5%
  • No.

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Somebody explain to me the benefits of Windows 10?

4K views 93 replies 28 participants last post by  Penryn 
#1 ·
I keep seeing the "upgrade to Windows 10 icon" on my systems and thought I'd do some research in hopes of understanding what makes it a better operating system in ways that aren't just the different interface and new features and couldn't find much. I ask because I really am set on the solid feel and power of Windows 7 and really didn't like the total makeover in 8 with the frantic start screen and illogical navigation (personal opinion), and I was wondering what are the advantages of 10? Microsoft's website only touched on next-gen features and crap and I was wondering if anybody could explain it to me?
Because if I choose not to upgrade for free, will I lose the opportunity for it to be free if I change my mind? Like I guess I have a slight worry that Win7 will become outmoded like XP.
 
#2 ·
The only thing that I can think of that might matter to people like us is, DirectX12. Without Windows 10, you can't enjoy DirectX12. Beyond that, I really don't get why anyone would want Windows 10. Some people say that it allows your computer to be even faster, but lol my computer is already overkill in that department. So, I honestly have no desire to get Windows 10. I might get it if I ever end up wanting some game that looks a thousand times better in DirectX12, but even then I don't know if it would be worth the time and energy of making the "upgrade".

Disclaimer: I live at my computer. If I only spent a few hours on it each day (or if I didn't use it every single day), then maybe I'd have no problem getting Windows 10.
 
#4 ·
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Originally Posted by bluehawaiiASTR View Post

That's my friend said. I already have more than enough using DirectX 11. I read a lot of games haven't started DiectX 12 work yet.
Yeah, I dunno... I'm going to stay with Windows 7 until I'm somehow forced to upgrade. I doubt that will ever happen though because I can see that I could still be using Windowx XP today without any problems - for me, that is. So, who knows, I might still be using Windows 7 even in the year 2025 when Windows 10's EOL comes around.
 
#5 ·
I like the new interface.

I like the new start menu.

Cortana.

Streaming Xbox One to my PC. (23 out of my team's 50 kills in halo multiplayer while streaming upstairs to my PC...it works)

Apps

DX12

Stability (based on my experience with W8, less crashes, and often easily recoverable)

Just to name a few.

I hope PC games can contribute to my Xbox gamerscore so I can horde those too
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#8 ·
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Originally Posted by Apokalipse View Post

I'm certain they could make DirectX 12 work in Windows 7/8/8.1, but they won't.

It would be best for everyone if people moved to Vulkan instead.
I think that it would require a new Kernel in Windows 7 and 8.1.
That's just what they want people to think.
If Vulkan can work on Windows 7 with the same kinds of optimisations, so can DirectX 12.
 
#10 ·
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That's just what they want people to think.
If Vulkan can work on Windows 7 with the same kinds of optimisations, so can DirectX 12.
I can neither speculate or make any definitive statements. This is beyond my control, so I can't comment. All I know is, Windows 10 will be the only Windows operating system that is compatible with DirectX12.
 
#11 ·
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Originally Posted by Apokalipse View Post

That's just what they want people to think.

If Vulkan can work on Windows 7 with the same kinds of optimisations, so can DirectX 12.
I can neither speculate or make any definitive statements. This is beyond my control, so I can't comment.
Saying they need a new kernel is about as convincing as saying Internet Explorer is a critical part of the OS.
They only deliberately designed it to be an integrated part of the OS in response to being sued by Netscape.
 
#13 ·
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Sigh. I'm sorry, but I am not an insider at Microsoft, so I can't make any definitive statements. All I know is, Windows 10 will be the only version of Windows that is compatible with DX12.
Accepts their plausible deniability is exactly what Microsoft wants. They've got some clever people working for them.
It's why they got away with bundling Internet Explorer with their OS's even when Netscape sued them.

But the reality is they could easily make DirectX 12 work on Windows 7/8/8.1 with zero changes to the Kernel. I mean, Vulkan can do it easily.
You can even get DirectX games running on Linux, which is an extremely different Kernel altogether. The main thing that makes it difficult is the fact that people don't have source code for DirectX.
 
#14 ·
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Originally Posted by Apokalipse View Post

Accepts their plausible deniability is exactly what Microsoft wants. They've got some clever people working for them.
It's why they got away with bundling Internet Explorer with their OS's even when Netscape sued them.

But the reality is they could easily make DirectX 12 work on Windows 7/8/8.1 with zero changes to the Kernel. I mean, Vulkan can do it easily.
You can even get DirectX games running on Linux, which is an extremely different Kernel altogether. The main thing that makes it difficult is the fact that people don't have source code for DirectX.
Then make a tutorial about this for everyone on OCN. Make it more widely known if it's working so well.
 
#15 ·
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

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Originally Posted by Apokalipse View Post

Accepts their plausible deniability is exactly what Microsoft wants. They've got some clever people working for them.

It's why they got away with bundling Internet Explorer with their OS's even when Netscape sued them.

But the reality is they could easily make DirectX 12 work on Windows 7/8/8.1 with zero changes to the Kernel. I mean, Vulkan can do it easily.

You can even get DirectX games running on Linux, which is an extremely different Kernel altogether. The main thing that makes it difficult is the fact that people don't have source code for DirectX.
Then make a tutorial about this for everyone on OCN. Make it more widely known if it's working so well.
You're really missing the point. And this thread is about the benefits of Windows 10, not how well DirectX games run on Linux.

Microsoft knows Windows 8/8.1 is not a hugely popular OS, and they really really want you to use Windows 10. So much so that they pushed adware to Windows 7/8 users via Windows Update.
Obviously they're going to use every trick in the book to try and make people use Windows 10, even if it's deceptive. That includes making features that could easily work on previous OS's exclusive to Windows 10.
 
#16 ·
I'm not trying to get the point. I honestly don't care. I personally have no need for DX12 right now, so until then, I'm not going to worry about trying to get Windows 7 to be fully compatible with DX12, to take full advantage of it in the same way that Windows 10 is supposed to so that I'm not wishing that I had Windows 10.
 
#20 ·
I'm still trying to figure out how it works. I'm sorta new to all of this but I get what it is. Just not how it does but I'd take vulkan over having to upgrade to 10 for directx 12 because then im stuck with siri's step sister cortana on my personal computer (which by the way i refuse to let microsoft tell me its a windows phone at the same time)
 
#21 ·
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Originally Posted by bluehawaiiASTR View Post

I'm still trying to figure out how it works. I'm sorta new to all of this but I get what it is. Just not how it does but I'd take vulkan over having to upgrade to 10 for directx 12 because then im stuck with siri's step sister cortana on my personal computer (which by the way i refuse to let microsoft tell me its a windows phone at the same time)
I think Cortana can be completely disabled.
 
#22 ·
1. Better looking UI. IMO

2. Cortana

3. Even though I'm a freelance web developer and I'm not a fan of the edge browser, it has some cool things I like (I just wish I didn't have to cater to yet another web browser)

4. XB1 to PC streaming

5. DX12

6. It's faster and more responsive

7. The UI is more user friendly for example, Multitasking comes easier and better when you're displaying different apps on your screen. Though I'd wished they would allow you to snap apps to the 2nd monitor adjacent to the other one. For example, I'll move an app from my main screen to my side screen, and want it to snap next to the main screen... but it just wants to move back to the other screen. It's not a big deal, but still.

8. Some other UI improvements. Such as moving files from one folder to another. Before, "this file could not be moved because it is open in another location" like if I had it open in another application, but then needed to move it to another folder... even if the app was closed in Windows 7 or 8/8.1 -- it would not move. Now it does on Windows 10
 
#26 ·
I always used chrome for speed or firefox for security but I mean I never hated internet explorer..so what's new and great about the edge browser? I was expecting internet explorer ver xx.xx.xxxx
 
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