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This get's the point across I think. I'm not saying you'll have that problem with that particular combination. But I had this problem with that bitspower adapter and these fittings.

What? I have monsoon fittings and those same bitspower 90s around here somewhere that I use to use and they worked fine 1/2 x 3/4. All BP rotary's are the same size height was and hole location, pretty much all 90s tbh they are over an inch tall that fitting needs a radius of 1/2 inch from the center of the g 1/4 the bitspower is way taller than that from top thread to center.

I need a pic because I have always used nothing but 3/4 inch you are using a non rotary or your 90 was made wrong.
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What? I have monsoon fittings and those same bitspower 90s around here somewhere that I use to use and they worked fine 1/2 x 3/4. All BP rotary's are the same size height was and hole location, pretty much all 90s tbh they are over an inch tall that fitting needs a radius of 1/2 inch from the center of the g 1/4 the bitspower is way taller than that from top thread to center.

I need a pic because I have always used nothing but 3/4 inch you are using a non rotary or your 90 was made wrong.

I'll take a pic next till my loop which could be in the next couple days. My bitspower 90 rotary is in my loop atm.
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I'll take a pic next till my loop which could be in the next couple days. My bitspower 90 rotary is in my loop atm.

What you are describing is physically not possible.

Here is a detailed dimension of a bp 90 degree rotary,



From the bottom of the diamond knurling to the center of the G 1/4 is 17.8 mms, that is .7 of an inch. So for what you are saying to happen that would mean the radius of the compression would have to be 1.4 inches, it isn't it isn't even close. If it was then those fittings also wouldn't fit on 90% of CPU blocks on the market.

Something is wrong with your 90 or it isn't a rotary.

Just for some more info, Here is a pic of a Bitspower L I have in my bench right now. Its slightly longer than the low profile (curved style 90s) but not much. attached to it is a MMTs Carbon fiber enhanced (its a monsoon free center with carbon fiber instead of holes all else is the same). it is 1/2x3/4

As you can see not only does it clear that thread it clears the gpus backplate......




Here is a bitspower rotary with a bitspower 90 degree compression fitting on it (1/2 by 3/4)


Edited by Cyber Locc - 1/27/16 at 1:56pm
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yeah it seems like there should be ~5mm to spare from those drawings. I'll look at it again next time I fill my loop, there was definitely a reason I couldn't use those two parts together because I bought them to be used together and it wouldn't work. I was pretty sure that was the reason from memory but I could be wrong. I'll let you know if I figure it out.
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yeah it seems like there should be ~5mm to spare from those drawings. I'll look at it again next time I fill my loop, there was definitely a reason I couldn't use those two parts together because I bought them to be used together and it wouldn't work. I was pretty sure that was the reason from memory but I could be wrong. I'll let you know if I figure it out.

It most likely isn't a rotary version as they have a short area that is used for screwing beyond that I have no clue.
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I recently got burnt by picking up some Bitspower rotary 90° adapter (with connector) only to find that they didn't work with the Monsoon hardline tube [3/8" x 1/2"] as the Bitspower required tubing that was 10/12mm while the monsoon tubing is imperial (ie inches).

I'm swapping to the Bitspower rotary 90° adapter (sans connector) and planning to use Monsoon Hardline Economy Compression Fittings [1/2" x 5/8"].

The questions I have are ...
  1. Can I use the Monsoon Hardline Economy Compression Fitting [1/2" x 5/8"] fittings for soft tubing?
  2. If so, which version of the soft tubing works best?
  3. Is PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing [3/8"x 1/2"] a viable option?
  4. If the word 'HardLine' in the fitting actually means something (ie not soft line), then what sort of monsoon fitting works best? / well? for flexible tubing?

No on all counts lol. Hardline means Hard Line IE hard tubing no you cannot use that with soft tube. Hard tube isn't anywhere near the same thing its acrylic pipe.

Ya monsoon makes compression fittings for soft tubing, http://www.performance-pcs.com/monsoon-free-center-hardline-compression-fittings-3-8-x-1-2-6-pack-matte-black.html.

It doesn't look anything like the fitting you linked, and you wont find one that will. Soft tubing requires a barb and a ring that is large to hold it to the barb, the bigger the barb the more secure it is. So I assume you want a stubby fitting like the one you linked well that isn't going to happen with soft tube period, go acrylic if thats what you want.
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Thanks for this info - very interesting. Rushing off to a movie at the moment but I have some more Qs biggrin.gif.
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@All
There are already 3D files of the new parts?

@Gene
Any news about a release in Germany?
post #1269 of 4482
To clear things up a bit, the Monsoon fitting lines in the Premium range are modular--in both tube types (hard or soft) and in styles, (Free Centers, Carbons, Chain Guns). What that means in the simplest terms is that the compression rings of all three styles share the same geometry. If you had one soft tube barb and one hard line base and one each compression ring in Free center, Carbon, and Chain Guns they would all work together. They have to be the same tube size of course.

The Rotary and light port rotary all use G 1/4 threads but the outside diameter is matched to the premium fittings for streamlined aesthetics.

The current Economy fittings are orphans as they are not interchangeable. We have a new economy fitting coming out that allows them to "join the family" but will also fit a fairly wide range of hard tube sizes so they are not just limited to imperial tube. I will be posting information on them in a few weeks as they have one more "trick" I think you guys might like...or some will anyway.
Edited by BoxGods - 1/27/16 at 3:34pm
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@All
There are already 3D files of the new parts?

@Gene
Any news about a release in Germany?

Still working on the Sketchup parts--other crap stuff keeps interrupting. Hoping to be able to focus on it this weekend.

EU resellers will be ordering shortly so "soon" for Germany.
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