Originally Posted by BoxGods
I would agree with that under normal circumstances and I certainly don't want to be that "bitter guy" but there are a few points to add at the very least. I didn't just make simple mandrels and toss them on the market. I designed the mandrels to work with our center line measuring and bending system, took the time to make all the how to videos, then released the mandrel kits to resellers at our cost. I did that because I was seeing all these quickie videos of companies bending tube around soup cans and saying it was easier than soft tube etc. In my view that was a disservice to the WC and modding community because noobs see that, believe it and then when they don't get the results they expect they get discouraged and our community suffers.
If I stripped out all the brackets and hardware that goes into the kits we could cut our costs a lot but the tools would not be nearly as functional. I also could have passed on the hundreds of questions I answered in emails and on forums to get "the group" up to speed on how all these tools work together.
All of the above said your point is still correct. I am very appreciative to all the guys that have emailed me about this and/or posted supportive messages, but end of the day there is nothing I can do about it and the community as a whole now has much better tools for running hard lines. That was the original goal so lets chalk it up as a win and go build something cool =)
Well I don't know about the thermal take version, however I do know the darkaide ones are pretty cheaply made and not very nice.
That was kinda the way I said it to ceader, I do not think anyone that would want the monsoon version would buy the dark sides.
Someone that will use it 1 time every 4 years isnt going to want to pay 50 dollars.
However 12 they might. But that won't change whether dark side made them or not, those are the people that would use bottle caps ect.
The guy that re does his build all the ime or does many than the quality ones you produce would be better suited, and the 50 could be justified.
I also want to say I didn't mean that no thought or work went into the design I'm sure it did. and I appreciate what you have made for the community very much.
I am just saying that there isn't anyway to make a mandrel really outside of the way you did. So people should go a little easier on darkside, ceader said well they should make there 180 square, well that doesn't even make since lol.
The shape of the mandrel is the shape it has to be there isn't any other shape it could be lol. That is all I am saying, it does suck that people are muscling in on your design, I'm just saying it was hard not to.
I would still recommend that people buy yours as they seem much better, I think you win by quality. That is aside from the people that won't use it enough to justify the cost.
I think the same about the CL thing though, it was wrong what they did however I don't think it will affect there business.
People that will buy that would never buy a CL case due to money issues ect, they would rather have the cheap Chinese junk.
That's what drives many people to CL, I am moving to them because I am sick of junk even my 900d (350 dollar case) is cheap junk IMO.
Sorry if I offended you that wasn't my intent, I am very happy to have you and your products in our industry, you revolutionize a lot of stuff.
To the light tubes hmm, how do they work do you have a pic of a prototype. Will they not work with coupler systems then? Does it take up the g1/4s on either side? Or can 1 still be used as a port.