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Originally Posted by Cyber Locc View Post

290x blocks will fit some of them as well, this is why block makers are not making them. 390xs are simply 290xs with more Vram, they dont make blocks for cards that change virtually nothing because not many people will buy 390xs, and most of the people that do dont water cool them.

I thought EK said they wouldnt be doing anything with the 390x because there wasnt enough of a market for them? I actually have a 290x not the 390x but its the sapphire "new edition" on the 390x PCB. If i knew for sure the 290x block worked for my card then i would be gravy and i would start things setup for the build. But at this point my whole upgrade hinders on the GPU block. Once i have the GPU waterblock down i plan to get a second card like mine from a friend, get a larger PSU and upgrade the CPU. With the 2 cards i would build a custom loop for the GPU's and CPUs.

Right now equipment wise I'm not running into any heat issues and there isn't a whole lot of reason to do a custom loop. Really the whole upgrade would cost me an easy 1200+ dollars without breaking a sweat. I'm not going to invest that kind of money to find out the waterblock doesn't fit or doesn't work.
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@ Cyber Locc... a 360mm radiator can DEFINITELY cool a CPU and a video card heavily overclocked. My old rig that's turning over to the server is a 3770k @ 4.7GHz, and a 7970 OCed to 1250/1650 being cooled by a D5 on speed setting 2, and a RX360 with yate loon mediums.

CPU never crosses 85C after prime 95 for 24 hours, nor did it cross 90 with the furry donut AND prime95 going for 6 hours. Safe to say, 360mm radiator handled it.

Normal gaming performance was 40-45C VRM/GPU processor and 60C CPU for some of the more CPU intensive titles.

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.
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I thought EK said they wouldnt be doing anything with the 390x because there wasnt enough of a market for them? I actually have a 290x not the 390x but its the sapphire "new edition" on the 390x PCB. If i knew for sure the 290x block worked for my card then i would be gravy and i would start things setup for the build. But at this point my whole upgrade hinders on the GPU block. Once i have the GPU waterblock down i plan to get a second card like mine from a friend, get a larger PSU and upgrade the CPU. With the 2 cards i would build a custom loop for the GPU's and CPUs.

Right now equipment wise I'm not running into any heat issues and there isn't a whole lot of reason to do a custom loop. Really the whole upgrade would cost me an easy 1200+ dollars without breaking a sweat. I'm not going to invest that kind of money to find out the waterblock doesn't fit or doesn't work.

They are making 1 block, however I dont think its a sapphire it may be I will try to find the info and edit this post. However ya you may find yourself in a bad situation of being without a water block and might have to use a universal water block for the card frown.gif.
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@ Cyber Locc... a 360mm radiator can DEFINITELY cool a CPU and a video card heavily overclocked.
CPU never crosses 85C after prime 95 for 24 hours, nor did it cross 90 with the furry donut AND prime95 going for 6 hours. Safe to say, 360mm radiator handled it.

1. No it cant cool a heavily overclocked CPU and GPU, the bare minimum that anyone will suggest for a stock CPU and GPU will be 360mm, add a CPU OC and you need a 480 at least. You are saying with a GPU Overclock as well, then add another 120 on there, so a 360 and a 240. I just told you, I have a 480 going right now and the air coming out of the rad is physically hot, that is not suppose to happen.

Will it cool it, yes of course it will. Will it cool it better than high end air heat sinks and a non reference GPU cooler, no it will not. If you are running a 7970 and a 3770k both overclocked on a 360 rad you are way way underraded and all the water cooling Gurus on this forum or any other will agree with me. Now the type of rad can also play a role if you have a very nice 360 well then it is better but still not enough.

Water cooling and how much rad you need is fairly easy, You need to keep a delta of 10 or less anything over 10 is a bad delta over 15 and pretty much any air cooler is better. So the best 360 rad on the market atm can cool 400 watts in push pull with gentle typhoons at a 10c delta.

You have a 150w CPU and a 300W GPU even if you had the best rad on the market its not enough. In your setup you are cooling about 309ws with your rad, your system is generating much more than 309ws and your delta is extremely high. A CPU should never hit 90 with water cooling EVER, under no bench period. A high end air cooler will prevent your CPU from hitting 90 under any bench.

Now I know some people do it for looks, some people do it for quiet and that is all fine an well. However you didn't say that, you said that a 360 can cool a CPU and GPU well, well anything over a 10c delta is not well which you are way over.
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post #1334 of 4428
Come on guys, this is getting off topic here. But yeah- EK's making a block for the MSI 390x.
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Originally Posted by Cyber Locc View Post

They are making 1 block, however I dont think its a sapphire it may be I will try to find the info and edit this post. However ya you may find yourself in a bad situation of being without a water block and might have to use a universal water block for the card frown.gif.
1. No it cant cool a heavily overclocked CPU and GPU, the bare minimum that anyone will suggest for a stock CPU and GPU will be 360mm, add a CPU OC and you need a 480 at least. You are saying with a GPU Overclock as well, then add another 120 on there, so a 360 and a 240. I just told you, I have a 480 going right now and the air coming out of the rad is physically hot, that is not suppose to happen.

Will it cool it, yes of course it will. Will it cool it better than high end air heat sinks and a non reference GPU cooler, no it will not. If you are running a 7970 and a 3770k both overclocked on a 360 rad you are way way underraded and all the water cooling Gurus on this forum or any other will agree with me. Now the type of rad can also play a role if you have a very nice 360 well then it is better but still not enough.

Water cooling and how much rad you need is fairly easy, You need to keep a delta of 10 or less anything over 10 is a bad delta over 15 and pretty much any air cooler is better. So the best 360 rad on the market atm can cool 400 watts in push pull with gentle typhoons at a 10c delta.

You have a 150w CPU and a 300W GPU even if you had the best rad on the market its not enough. In your setup you are cooling about 309ws with your rad, your system is generating much more than 309ws and your delta is extremely high. A CPU should never hit 90 with water cooling EVER, under no bench period. A high end air cooler will prevent your CPU from hitting 90 under any bench.

Now I know some people do it for looks, some people do it for quiet and that is all fine an well. However you didn't say that, you said that a 360 can cool a CPU and GPU well, well anything over a 10c delta is not well which you are way over.

What do you mean by 10c delta? 10c delta over ambient?
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What do you mean by 10c delta? 10c delta over ambient?

Yea, 10c delta is just a 10 degree rise in water temperature from it's idle temperature.

That being said... status update for anyone still looking, d5 mmrs res caps still aren't in stock on PPCS. Trust me, I've checked like 4 times today because I'm excited to start building the new rig. biggrin.gif
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Yea, 10c delta is just a 10 degree rise in water temperature from it's idle temperature.

That being said... status update for anyone still looking, d5 mmrs res caps still aren't in stock on PPCS. Trust me, I've checked like 4 times today because I'm excited to start building the new rig. biggrin.gif

Why do you want MMRS so bad? there are better options out there like the Bitspower Reservoir Upgrade kit + Bitspower D5 Pump Top, look the best I think.
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Why do you want MMRS so bad? there are better options out there like the Bitspower Reservoir Upgrade kit + Bitspower D5 Pump Top, look the best I think.

Did you really just ask that in a Monsoon products thread?

Gotta be a troll...
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Why do you want MMRS so bad? there are better options out there like the Bitspower Reservoir Upgrade kit + Bitspower D5 Pump Top, look the best I think.

Did you really just ask that in a Monsoon products thread?

Gotta be a troll...

Im glad someone else said this too. I tried to call him out a few posts back and he acted insulted, but he constantly mentions bitspower in here. They do have their forum...
 
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these things look awesome... the green is calling to me..... smile.gif
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