Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › New products from Monsoon cooling
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

New products from Monsoon cooling - Page 151

post #1501 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber Locc View Post

What they said however I wouldn't run 2 pumps like that even horizontally. If you did that would be in parallel, parallel pumps adds zero performance gain at all and actually is bad for reliability as if one dies it will add restriction for the other. Its one of those just dont do it things smile.gif.

However Ceaders idea is good I was considering that earlier in the thread smile.gif. Mystriss also has a good idea for how to use both caps with 2 pumps in serial. However that would require the reservoir being horizontal.

I didn't do it!!! Wait...

Yea, my res has always been horizontal as its going in an HTPC chassis - I'll have a mating kit splitter ring:



in mine so it's actually two separate reservoirs and pumps, rather than pumps in serial. Though I will have a second pump in a SAP on my GPU loop, mostly as a reserve/emergency pump.

I'm no hydro-engineer, but given that it's a closed loop system couldn't one add the pump where-ever in the loop and still get a pressure increase? I've been told that I can put second rad's and reservoirs [almost] anywhere I wanted, or even have no res at all. (I was told that while the "norm" is putting a res just before the pump so that the pump always has water, it wasn't technically necessary to do so; just makes start up, and burping, a lot easier. I wasn't originally going to have a res in my top case; I was going to have three separate tiny res & pump combos fit in where-ever I could in my build but I ran completely out of room. I used to be mildly upset about the res in the top case thing because I wasn't pleased with the aesthetics, but I'm totally stoked with how the MMRS looks, it's gonna look great up top tongue.gif Sorry rambling...) Anyway, I would think that while perhaps not as great as true serial, that two pumps anywhere in the loop would still benefit the pressure & flow.
Edited by Mystriss - 2/9/16 at 11:34pm
post #1502 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystriss View Post

couldn't one add the pump where-ever in the loop and still get a pressure increase?

Yes - you can place the second pump anywhere and still gain the benefits of a serial pump setup.

....and like you state, a res is not a necessity by any means - It just looks good and can help with bleeding of course. Technically a vertical rad for instance could also be utilised at the same time as a reservoir with no need for a separate device.
Corsair 900D
(12 items)
 
Déjà vu
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7-6700K ASUS Maximus VIII Formula EVGA 980Ti Classified EVGA 980Ti Classified 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Corsair CMD32GX4M4B3200C16 Samsung 512GB 950 Pro M2 Samsung 1TB 850 Pro Custom 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 10 ASUS PG278Q Corsair K70 RGB Corsair AX1500i 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Caselabs SMA8 Razer Deathadder 2013 On-Board Aquacomputer Aquaero 6XT 
  hide details  
Reply
Corsair 900D
(12 items)
 
Déjà vu
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7-6700K ASUS Maximus VIII Formula EVGA 980Ti Classified EVGA 980Ti Classified 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Corsair CMD32GX4M4B3200C16 Samsung 512GB 950 Pro M2 Samsung 1TB 850 Pro Custom 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 10 ASUS PG278Q Corsair K70 RGB Corsair AX1500i 
CaseMouseAudioOther
Caselabs SMA8 Razer Deathadder 2013 On-Board Aquacomputer Aquaero 6XT 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1503 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Costas View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystriss View Post

couldn't one add the pump where-ever in the loop and still get a pressure increase?

Yes - you can place the second pump anywhere and still gain the benefits of a serial pump setup.

....and like you state, a res is not a necessity by any means - It just looks good and can help with bleeding of course. Technically a vertical rad for instance could also be utilised at the same time as a reservoir with no need for a separate device.

Actually it kinda is. Mostly for precautionary purposes, but as you say there are ways of getting around it. None that I wish to try but doable of course. biggrin.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Crosshair IV Formula Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
Corsair Dominator G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF 932 Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers 
OtherOther
Sunbeam Rheosmart 3 Creative X-Fi 
  hide details  
Reply
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Crosshair IV Formula Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
Corsair Dominator G. Skill Ripjaws X G. Skill x2 HITACHI 1TB Deskstars 1TB RAID0 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
HAF 932 Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers 
OtherOther
Sunbeam Rheosmart 3 Creative X-Fi 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1504 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

Actually it kinda is. Mostly for precautionary purposes, but as you say there are ways of getting around it. None that I wish to try but doable of course. biggrin.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Yea I wasn't keen to mess with it myself, which is how I ended up with the now useless FrozenQ reservoir... I'm thinking about turning it into a modern art accent light that's reset into the wall tongue.gif
post #1505 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystriss View Post

Yea I wasn't keen to mess with it myself, which is how I ended up with the now useless FrozenQ reservoir... I'm thinking about turning it into a modern art accent light that's reset into the wall tongue.gif

Bwahaha T Virus in the wall FTW, is it green too tongue.gif.

You dont need a res you dont even need to turn a rad straight up honestly. Its archicac idea these days but back in the day no one used reses, It was all about the T Line. It was harder to bleed and didn't give you a buffer but defiantly doable, fun fact reservoirs actually hurt flow rate, not by much but they do. The bigger the reservoir the more it hurts flow, of course even with a huge reservoir it wont hurt it by that much its pretty negligible.

Sorry for letting the cat out of bag about the pump idea doh.gif
~Shadow~ V3.0
(20 items)
 
Night Hawk
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6960x Rampage V Extreme Black Edition Undecided x3 Undecided 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Undecided Undecided EK Sumprecey EVO EK Sumprecey EVO 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Undecided Undecided Windows 10 Undecided 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow Wltimate  EVGA G2 1600w Case Labs STH10 Razer Deathadder (2013)(Modded with Blue LEDs) 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Razer Goliath  Razer Electra, Corsair Vengeance 2000, Kingston... EK Vardars 140mm razer nostromos  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5820k Evga Micro 2 X99 EVGA Superclocked + 980ti Gskill Ripjaws V 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
Up in the AIR Up in the air still.  Windows 10 XFX 850 W pro.  
Case
Hex Gear R40 
  hide details  
Reply
~Shadow~ V3.0
(20 items)
 
Night Hawk
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6960x Rampage V Extreme Black Edition Undecided x3 Undecided 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Undecided Undecided EK Sumprecey EVO EK Sumprecey EVO 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Undecided Undecided Windows 10 Undecided 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow Wltimate  EVGA G2 1600w Case Labs STH10 Razer Deathadder (2013)(Modded with Blue LEDs) 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Razer Goliath  Razer Electra, Corsair Vengeance 2000, Kingston... EK Vardars 140mm razer nostromos  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5820k Evga Micro 2 X99 EVGA Superclocked + 980ti Gskill Ripjaws V 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
Up in the AIR Up in the air still.  Windows 10 XFX 850 W pro.  
Case
Hex Gear R40 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1506 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber Locc View Post

Bwahaha T Virus in the wall FTW, is it green too tongue.gif.

You dont need a res you dont even need to turn a rad straight up honestly. Its archicac idea these days but back in the day no one used reses, It was all about the T Line. It was harder to bleed and didn't give you a buffer but defiantly doable, fun fact reservoirs actually hurt flow rate, not by much but they do. The bigger the reservoir the more it hurts flow, of course even with a huge reservoir it wont hurt it by that much its pretty negligible.

Sorry for letting the cat out of bag about the pump idea doh.gif
it's so negligible I challenge you to find an instance where flow was affected enough to matter smile.gif you could add up all the rads all the fittings and any size res and I'd wager it's not even close to being as restrictive as one cpu block unless qdcs are used
NEWBIE
(23 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD 8320e Asus Sabertooth R2.0 xfx r9 290 xfx r9 290 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill rip jaws  Samsung 840 Pro WD BLUE 64MB Cache Ocz vertex 3 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech h220x  alphacool nexxos st30 280mm radiator alphacool coolplex pro LT10 100mm reservoir Swiftech h220 rad only 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit ENTERPRISE edition Acer 23" 1080p  asus 19" Dell Media Center  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Rosewill Photon 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G5 or Steel Series MW2 edition Generic Cheapy 
AudioAudioAudio
GEMINI HSR-1000 Logitech 5.1 surround ZALMAN clip on mic 
  hide details  
Reply
NEWBIE
(23 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD 8320e Asus Sabertooth R2.0 xfx r9 290 xfx r9 290 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill rip jaws  Samsung 840 Pro WD BLUE 64MB Cache Ocz vertex 3 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech h220x  alphacool nexxos st30 280mm radiator alphacool coolplex pro LT10 100mm reservoir Swiftech h220 rad only 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit ENTERPRISE edition Acer 23" 1080p  asus 19" Dell Media Center  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Rosewill Photon 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G5 or Steel Series MW2 edition Generic Cheapy 
AudioAudioAudio
GEMINI HSR-1000 Logitech 5.1 surround ZALMAN clip on mic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1507 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber Locc View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystriss View Post

Yea I wasn't keen to mess with it myself, which is how I ended up with the now useless FrozenQ reservoir... I'm thinking about turning it into a modern art accent light that's reset into the wall tongue.gif

Bwahaha T Virus in the wall FTW, is it green too tongue.gif.

You dont need a res you dont even need to turn a rad straight up honestly. Its archicac idea these days but back in the day no one used reses, It was all about the T Line. It was harder to bleed and didn't give you a buffer but defiantly doable, fun fact reservoirs actually hurt flow rate, not by much but they do. The bigger the reservoir the more it hurts flow, of course even with a huge reservoir it wont hurt it by that much its pretty negligible.

Sorry for letting the cat out of bag about the pump idea doh.gif

How does a res hurt flow rate?
 
Spare Parts
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel i5 750 Lynnfield Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 ASUS Strix GTX 960 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Crucial BX100 SSD 500GB EKWB EK-KIT L120 Corsair SP120 Koolance 2x140mm Radiator HX-CU1402V 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair AF140 Bitspower VG-NGTX960 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Samsung Curved 27" S27D590C 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB Apevia Iceburg 680 watts Apevia X-Sniper 2 EVGA Torq X3 Laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom 9750 ASUS M3A78-CM PNY XLR8 GTX 460 Corsair XMS2 (4 x 1GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingPower
Hitachi 5K500 Silenx 92mm EFFIZIO Corsair SP 120 Red LED Antec 500watt 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake ASRock A170A-X1/3.1 Gigabye G1 Gaming GTX 970 Windforce CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) 288-Pin DD... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bykski CPU-XPR-A High Performance Acrylic Nicke... EKWB Acrylic Nickel GPU Block Monsoon MMRS Reservoir Bykski BY-PUMP-XPH-PA Water Cooling Pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance 240 30 FPI Radiator Magicool 280 14 FPI Radiator Bitfenix Spectre PWM 120mm Fan ML140 140mm PWM Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 Pro Corsair RM Series 850 Thermaltake Suppressor F31 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Spare Parts
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel i5 750 Lynnfield Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 ASUS Strix GTX 960 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Crucial BX100 SSD 500GB EKWB EK-KIT L120 Corsair SP120 Koolance 2x140mm Radiator HX-CU1402V 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair AF140 Bitspower VG-NGTX960 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Samsung Curved 27" S27D590C 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB Apevia Iceburg 680 watts Apevia X-Sniper 2 EVGA Torq X3 Laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom 9750 ASUS M3A78-CM PNY XLR8 GTX 460 Corsair XMS2 (4 x 1GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingPower
Hitachi 5K500 Silenx 92mm EFFIZIO Corsair SP 120 Red LED Antec 500watt 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake ASRock A170A-X1/3.1 Gigabye G1 Gaming GTX 970 Windforce CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) 288-Pin DD... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bykski CPU-XPR-A High Performance Acrylic Nicke... EKWB Acrylic Nickel GPU Block Monsoon MMRS Reservoir Bykski BY-PUMP-XPH-PA Water Cooling Pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance 240 30 FPI Radiator Magicool 280 14 FPI Radiator Bitfenix Spectre PWM 120mm Fan ML140 140mm PWM Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 Pro Corsair RM Series 850 Thermaltake Suppressor F31 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1508 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

How does a res hurt flow rate?
it's nearly unmeasurable...
NEWBIE
(23 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD 8320e Asus Sabertooth R2.0 xfx r9 290 xfx r9 290 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill rip jaws  Samsung 840 Pro WD BLUE 64MB Cache Ocz vertex 3 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech h220x  alphacool nexxos st30 280mm radiator alphacool coolplex pro LT10 100mm reservoir Swiftech h220 rad only 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit ENTERPRISE edition Acer 23" 1080p  asus 19" Dell Media Center  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Rosewill Photon 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G5 or Steel Series MW2 edition Generic Cheapy 
AudioAudioAudio
GEMINI HSR-1000 Logitech 5.1 surround ZALMAN clip on mic 
  hide details  
Reply
NEWBIE
(23 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD 8320e Asus Sabertooth R2.0 xfx r9 290 xfx r9 290 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill rip jaws  Samsung 840 Pro WD BLUE 64MB Cache Ocz vertex 3 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech h220x  alphacool nexxos st30 280mm radiator alphacool coolplex pro LT10 100mm reservoir Swiftech h220 rad only 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit ENTERPRISE edition Acer 23" 1080p  asus 19" Dell Media Center  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Rosewill Photon 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G5 or Steel Series MW2 edition Generic Cheapy 
AudioAudioAudio
GEMINI HSR-1000 Logitech 5.1 surround ZALMAN clip on mic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1509 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfknjadagr8 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

How does a res hurt flow rate?
it's nearly unmeasurable...

Yea, it wasn't making sense to me.
 
Spare Parts
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel i5 750 Lynnfield Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 ASUS Strix GTX 960 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Crucial BX100 SSD 500GB EKWB EK-KIT L120 Corsair SP120 Koolance 2x140mm Radiator HX-CU1402V 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair AF140 Bitspower VG-NGTX960 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Samsung Curved 27" S27D590C 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB Apevia Iceburg 680 watts Apevia X-Sniper 2 EVGA Torq X3 Laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom 9750 ASUS M3A78-CM PNY XLR8 GTX 460 Corsair XMS2 (4 x 1GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingPower
Hitachi 5K500 Silenx 92mm EFFIZIO Corsair SP 120 Red LED Antec 500watt 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake ASRock A170A-X1/3.1 Gigabye G1 Gaming GTX 970 Windforce CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) 288-Pin DD... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bykski CPU-XPR-A High Performance Acrylic Nicke... EKWB Acrylic Nickel GPU Block Monsoon MMRS Reservoir Bykski BY-PUMP-XPH-PA Water Cooling Pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance 240 30 FPI Radiator Magicool 280 14 FPI Radiator Bitfenix Spectre PWM 120mm Fan ML140 140mm PWM Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 Pro Corsair RM Series 850 Thermaltake Suppressor F31 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Spare Parts
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
intel i5 750 Lynnfield Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 ASUS Strix GTX 960 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Crucial BX100 SSD 500GB EKWB EK-KIT L120 Corsair SP120 Koolance 2x140mm Radiator HX-CU1402V 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair AF140 Bitspower VG-NGTX960 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Samsung Curved 27" S27D590C 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair Strafe RGB Apevia Iceburg 680 watts Apevia X-Sniper 2 EVGA Torq X3 Laser 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom 9750 ASUS M3A78-CM PNY XLR8 GTX 460 Corsair XMS2 (4 x 1GB) 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingPower
Hitachi 5K500 Silenx 92mm EFFIZIO Corsair SP 120 Red LED Antec 500watt 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake ASRock A170A-X1/3.1 Gigabye G1 Gaming GTX 970 Windforce CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) 288-Pin DD... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bykski CPU-XPR-A High Performance Acrylic Nicke... EKWB Acrylic Nickel GPU Block Monsoon MMRS Reservoir Bykski BY-PUMP-XPH-PA Water Cooling Pump 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance 240 30 FPI Radiator Magicool 280 14 FPI Radiator Bitfenix Spectre PWM 120mm Fan ML140 140mm PWM Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 Pro Corsair RM Series 850 Thermaltake Suppressor F31 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1510 of 4438
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfknjadagr8 View Post

it's so negligible I challenge you to find an instance where flow was affected enough to matter smile.gif you could add up all the rads all the fittings and any size res and I'd wager it's not even close to being as restrictive as one cpu block unless qdcs are used
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfknjadagr8 View Post

it's nearly unmeasurable...

I wouldn't go that far, a typically size reservoir in a loop will add maybe .1psi restriction to a loop, by typically size I mean a 250ml. However I said it becomes more so a problem with size, for instance in waterchillers where the large buffer is needed. A 5 gallon reservoir can add about 1 - 1.5psi restriction to the loop.

Now on to just how negligible that is, well I will take a quote from you.

"you could add up all the rads all the fittings and any size res and I'd wager it's not even close to being as restrictive as one cpu block unless qdcs are used" this is seriously wrong. A typical high flow CPU block (which is what we use today) is only about .9PSI, a Typical Radiator is .25PSI, 3 rads and you just matched a CPU block. A Hardware Labs GTX rad has a .7psi drop, that is almost as much as a CPU block by itself. Do not underestimate flow restriction , yes those restriction numbers are low but so are our pumps ability's. A stock D5 at speed 5 can muster through 4.72 PSI, however turn that down to speed 4 and now we are at 3.23, on speed 2 which alot of people run it well it cant handle much in the way of restriction.

I also didn't need to put it together and total it up as others already have smile.gif here is a great resource that all watercoolers should know about here on OCN. http://www.overclock.net/t/1108918/what-can-my-pump-handle-a-guide
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

How does a res hurt flow rate?

I honestly don't know why it does for sure, I know why the community thinks it does, there is a theory that it is because the water entering the reservoir slows down and then speeds up again through the pump. This adds restriction, as it mixes with the slow moving large body of water.

I think alot of watercoolers here on OCN and elsewhere like to think this hobby and community is new, it isnt. Watercooling has been around since the early 2000s and not until around 2010/2011ish did resovoirs actually become the mainstream where everyone used them. So for over half of the life of our hobby reservoirs were not used.

This wasn't because there was not reservoirs to use, it was because of flow rate issues (back then with very restrictive cpu blocks it was a bigger deal) and because they seen them as unneeded which aside from helping to bleed a loop they kinda are. They look awesome and that does give them something to the table and the have became the fad, but to say they are required or serve any purpose other than looking pretty and helping bleeding and a small buffer (irrelevant after about 10 mins) well they do not.


All that said I am with you guys I like reservoirs, I like the way they look and that they are easier to bleed, I am just saying do not think they help performance they do not and if you find yourself in a tight spot where you have issues fitting one do not be scared to go T Line people were using just T lines for longer than we have reservoirs. I started watercooling right around the switch my first ever loop (which wasn't that great my first 2 I dont really consider my first loops lol) used a T line. My second was a Thermal Take big water 735 back in 2009 lol that thing was horrible, my first real loop IMO was a XSPC Rasa kit and that had a reservoir:). Before that it was aquarium pumps and crappy blocks hehehe.
Edited by Cyber Locc - 2/10/16 at 8:23am
~Shadow~ V3.0
(20 items)
 
Night Hawk
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6960x Rampage V Extreme Black Edition Undecided x3 Undecided 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Undecided Undecided EK Sumprecey EVO EK Sumprecey EVO 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Undecided Undecided Windows 10 Undecided 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow Wltimate  EVGA G2 1600w Case Labs STH10 Razer Deathadder (2013)(Modded with Blue LEDs) 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Razer Goliath  Razer Electra, Corsair Vengeance 2000, Kingston... EK Vardars 140mm razer nostromos  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5820k Evga Micro 2 X99 EVGA Superclocked + 980ti Gskill Ripjaws V 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
Up in the AIR Up in the air still.  Windows 10 XFX 850 W pro.  
Case
Hex Gear R40 
  hide details  
Reply
~Shadow~ V3.0
(20 items)
 
Night Hawk
(12 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 6960x Rampage V Extreme Black Edition Undecided x3 Undecided 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Undecided Undecided EK Sumprecey EVO EK Sumprecey EVO 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Undecided Undecided Windows 10 Undecided 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Black Widow Wltimate  EVGA G2 1600w Case Labs STH10 Razer Deathadder (2013)(Modded with Blue LEDs) 
Mouse PadAudioOtherOther
Razer Goliath  Razer Electra, Corsair Vengeance 2000, Kingston... EK Vardars 140mm razer nostromos  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5820k Evga Micro 2 X99 EVGA Superclocked + 980ti Gskill Ripjaws V 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
Up in the AIR Up in the air still.  Windows 10 XFX 850 W pro.  
Case
Hex Gear R40 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › New products from Monsoon cooling