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Actually... the more I think about this, my half asleep brain couldn't process it and it's GOT TO line up. Now that I'm somewhat awake, I'm picturing the pieces in my mind... and they have go in the same direction. When I first looked at it, I was like "They don't line up because of the rods... but they both have the same constraints based on rods. I'll look again in the morning when I get home.

EDIT: Nope... looking at the parts on the blueprints... you can't make it so the side ports on an end cap align with the out port on the D5 end cap. Unless I'm completely dumb, it'll always be askew by about 30 degrees. I'll need to get the end cap with 3 ports instead. 1 plug, 1 fill, 1 reservoir infeed.
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Geno's linked size chart from earlier (large version): http://geno.boxgods.com/MMRS-DIMS.jpg


I couldn't quite work out what you were trying to work out, so I played lego...
and this is what I think you are thinking about ??

The ports do face the same way.
BUT are slightly offset vertically.
If you use the LHS tension rod as a sighter on the vertical photo, you will notice the D5 port is just outside the rod, while the top "side facing" port is just inside the rod.





EDIT: replaced second photo as Censored stamp was covering the fitting biggrin.gif
Edited by fast_fate - 2/10/16 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by DaClownie View Post

Actually... the more I think about this, my half asleep brain couldn't process it and it's GOT TO line up. Now that I'm somewhat awake, I'm picturing the pieces in my mind... and they have go in the same direction. When I first looked at it, I was like "They don't line up because of the rods... but they both have the same constraints based on rods. I'll look again in the morning when I get home.

EDIT: Nope... looking at the parts on the blueprints... you can't make it so the side ports on an end cap align with the out port on the D5 end cap. Unless I'm completely dumb, it'll always be askew by about 30 degrees. I'll need to get the end cap with 3 ports instead. 1 plug, 1 fill, 1 reservoir infeed.
MMRS End Caps (Click to show)


Geno's linked size chart from earlier (large version): http://geno.boxgods.com/MMRS-DIMS.jpg


I couldn't quite work out what you were trying to work out, so I played lego...
and this is what I think you are thinking about ??

The ports do face the same way.
BUT are slightly offset vertically.
If you use the LHS tension rod as a sighter on the vertical photo, you will notice the D5 port is just outside the rod, while the top "side facing" port is just inside the rod.





EDIT: replaced second photo as Censored stamp was covering the fitting biggrin.gif

I need a vacation. I'll confirm my stupidity when I get home tomorrow morning. Thanks for the pics and the peace of mind until I return home biggrin.gif
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CAn Monsoon make the D5 cap with 2 ports instead of 1? So it looks better?
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I don't get it in that case.. is it supposed to be just for looks? Or is it just a bad design?

No no, it's not bad design at all. That config has very limited practical uses so I assume it was assembled just to highlight the modularity of the MMRS system. Being available as individual parts makes even questionable arangments possible and your imagination is the limitation.

That particular setup is not completely crazy though. It could be used to power two loops that share a common res without being just set in series. Sharing the res counters the main issue with dual loops whereby if only one loop is heavily loaded the cooling power of the other loop is effectively wasted.

As talked about above using pumps in a parallel config is bad for our water cooling purposes. It's not that the second pump is restrictive if it fails though, it's actually the opposite. The pump is very non restrictive so if one pump fails then the other pump will push all its flow back through the stopped pump and bypass the cooling loop altogether.
Edited by Jakusonfire - 2/10/16 at 11:03pm
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No no, it's not bad design at all. That config has very limited practical uses so I assume it was assembled just to highlight the modularity of the MMRS system. Being available as individual parts makes even questionable arangments possible and your imagination is the limitation.

That particular setup is not completely crazy though. It could be used to power two loops that share a common res without being just set in series. Sharing the res counters the main issue with dual loops whereby if only one loop is heavily loaded the cooling power of the other loop is effectively wasted.

Perhaps, but if the temperature is going to be spread through both loops why not just do 1 loop with the pumps in series?
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Perhaps, but if the temperature is going to be spread through both loops why not just do 1 loop with the pumps in series?

Only because the temp is spread in a slightly different way, and two loops can provide different flow rates for different parts ... or just for aesthetics.
It can be beneficial. If you have a restrictive CPU loop you can still have a very high flow GPU loop.
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CAn Monsoon make the D5 cap with 2 ports instead of 1? So it looks better?
But a individual pump only has 1 output so why make a dummy outlet? You are talking about the pump mount endcap correct?
Edited by Jiryama - 2/10/16 at 10:25pm
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No no, it's not bad design at all. That config has very limited practical uses so I assume it was assembled just to highlight the modularity of the MMRS system. Being available as individual parts makes even questionable arangments possible and your imagination is the limitation.

That particular setup is not completely crazy though. It could be used to power two loops that share a common res without being just set in series. Sharing the res counters the main issue with dual loops whereby if only one loop is heavily loaded the cooling power of the other loop is effectively wasted.

I never even thought of this that is a good idea. Rep for that thumb.gif

What would also be a good idea is using an idea like mystriss's. So the coupler in the center seals each reservoir off, you could run dual loops each with there own reservoir however it would look like there is only 1.

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Perhaps, but if the temperature is going to be spread through both loops why not just do 1 loop with the pumps in series?

I am curious if this would be fact, with the increased flow rates the cooling would be improved, The water temp would be the same in the reservoir but I am not sure the cooling potential differences. I would very much like to see testing on this.

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Put a individual pump only has 1 output so why make a dummy outlet? You are talking about the pump mount endcap correct?
It would be a dummy endcap, the pumps intake would not be however. The reason to make a dummy endcap would be to have pump covers on either side of the reservoir so that every thing is macthey macthey.
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That particular setup is not completely crazy though. It could be used to power two loops that share a common res without being just set in series. Sharing the res counters the main issue with dual loops whereby if only one loop is heavily loaded the cooling power of the other loop is effectively wasted.

If you use the triple end cap and block one of them off and use the other two for the tube to the separate pumps wouldn't it create too much suction in one central location and cause a vortex? I know that they have the trident inside of it but could it cancel out that much suction?
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It would be a dummy endcap, the pumps intake would not be however. The reason to make a dummy endcap would be to have pump covers on either side of the reservoir so that every thing is macthey macthey.

Well the port on the side of the cap is an output though not an input and filled by the actual pump so wouldn't you want an end cap with no side ports and no middle port(the intake that traditionally feeds to the pump) but have threads for a pump cover to make it matchey matchey?
Sorry guess i'm not as visual as some of you. redface.gif
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Well the port on the side of the cap is an output though not an input and filled by the actual pump so wouldn't you want an end cap with no side ports and no middle port(the intake that traditionally feeds to the pump) but have threads for a pump cover to make it matchey matchey?
Sorry guess i'm not as visual as some of you. redface.gif

Well ideally yes, but gene hasn't made such a cap yet so we are talking about modding what we have to make it work.


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If you use the triple end cap and block one of them off and use the other two for the tube to the separate pumps wouldn't it create too much suction in one central location and cause a vortex? I know that they have the trident inside of it but could it cancel out that much suction?

He is talking about using pumps on either side, so it would be like pump a on the left and pump b on the right. Pump As out goes to the GPU loop then into the rad then back into a coupler in the center (or next to the pump). Pump Bs out would to the CPU then to a rad then back to a coupler in the center (or a second coupler next to that pump top.)

I dont know about the trident but there is anti vortex fittings as well. I don't know that impeller might work better than you think. As with anything it would be a game of try it and if you have an issue step back and solve it, it could be done that is for sure just how to achieve it is the question.
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