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@BoxGods Did you change your name/logo? tongue.gif

No...
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Shipped and sold by FastMedia (Looks like AMI Ventures Inc. out of Richmond, Texas). Love their prices, for example MMRS-SP-1P is only $28.69 - PPCS has it for $8.95. Also like that 8-17 days for shipping - probably has no stock and buys elsewhere.

What are you guys talking about?
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Shipped and sold by FastMedia (Looks like AMI Ventures Inc. out of Richmond, Texas). Love their prices, for example MMRS-SP-1P is only $28.69 - PPCS has it for $8.95. Also like that 8-17 days for shipping - probably has no stock and buys elsewhere.

What are you guys talking about?

Check the link in my post. Has the wrong monsoon logo on your stuff.
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I finally was able to get some of those AP102-2020 LED's ordered! They are going to offer a special challange to me, as there are 4 solder pads in the space of 4mm that I need to attach wires to (and I suck with soldering.) So, I've also ordered a hot air soldering tool (different than a heat gun for bending tubes) and some solder paste. (It'll be at least a week, probably closer to two before the LED's are delivered.)

I'm going to try and put this together with mostly just monsoon products, but without bugging @BoxGods much more. Hopefully he'll tolerate a few more technical questions from me:

1. With the CCFL products designed to be inserted into MMRS reservoirs, what colors have CLEAR outer tubes? (My blue one has a white CCFL in a blue tube... I need to find a clear tube..)

2. Can you tell me the exact model thermistor you're using for the "Monsoon Premium G 1 / 4 Temperature Plug"? Using that information, I should be able to look up the resistance/temperature mappings for that particular thermistor. I know it's 10k @25, but even for approximate measurements beyond "25C", I need to at least know the beta coefficient value.

To start, I just want to get a "double sided" 4mm wide LED strip inside the CCFL lens tube (even if I have to drill open the hole in the plug a bit.) Then, I'll have the LEDs react to water temperature changes. I was thinking of something along the lines of using color temperatures vaguely mapped to water temps. So, ~23C would be pure blue, and ~37C would be pure red. Temps between 23 and 37 would map to blues, greens, yellows, and reds. (Writing the software for this is actually very easy.) (I chose 23C as it's considered the "average" room temperature based on my quick google search. Ideally, that base number would be measured from another thermistor or at least software controllable.)

I can expand on this by animating the colors somewhat to give a motion effect that I think would look extremely cool with a clear frosted res.

Eventually, if I can find the right part, I'd also like to have it reacting to the water level in the res. If the res isn't full, only the "lower" half of the LED's would be lit. (This isn't easy: electronic water sensors are failure prone, float sensors are mechanical parts that don't last very long, and that only leaves expensive optical-type sensors.)

If I'm able to accomplish this (and the hardest part I envision is getting the LED strip into the CCFL lens), I'll be happy to share the code and assembly instructions with others.

On the other hand, if I can't accomplish this, I'll have fun trying. smile.gif

Never a bother man.

1. The UV has a clear tube.
2. No idea...it will be a generic unit that meets the spec--aka a Chinese part number. I can check if there is a "compares to" number listed.

The opening should already be 5mm
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While waiting for the new LED's to show up, I ordered a MMRS 100mm "black" CCFL. I can confirm that the outer "lens" on that tube is clear. The opening is about 5mm, which should suffice for the 4mm wide LED strips.

I've also started playing around with some of the animations I'd like to do. With a 100mm res, I'll only be able to fit in a string of 20 LED's (perhaps 19), so it's kind of limiting. I'm mocking things up using normal size LED's and a piece of paper to diffuse as a frosted reservoir tube might. Here's my 100mm vision of the water temperature being too high:

If you saw that inside your reservoir, would you feel compelled to check your temps? wink.gif


Oh, and here's what it looks like defused inside a reservoir (or at least this should give an idea... )

The white LED tubes might give you better diffusion--may want to at least try one.

After seeing your test video...I may have to do a three tube reservoir to celebrate the upcoming Falcon Heavy launch =)
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Check the link in my post. Has the wrong monsoon logo on your stuff.

I tried...it just redirects to a search box on New Egg
post #4427 of 4492
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No idea, it was my suggestion to box gods make an empty tube wee could fill with what we want, we dont need you to make controller, let us use the leds, cfl. or addressable leds we want.

You can already do that...unscrew the cap, slide the CCFL out...put whatever you want in there, put the cap back on.

The opening in the plug body is the same diameter as the ID of the tube.

Ahh ty.


And yea the link changed
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Check the link in my post. Has the wrong monsoon logo on your stuff.

I tried...it just redirects to a search box on New Egg

The logo says monsoon multimedia. Only the stuff from that seller shows up like that.
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The white LED tubes might give you better diffusion--may want to at least try one.

Possibly. However, when using a "frosted clear" reservoir tube, I don't think the extra diffusion would be helpful. I honestly don't know. Having the white tube might diffuse them a bit TOO much, and I need to be very careful about what brightness I run them at (due to temperatures.)

So, the APA102-2020 LED's came in. They are exactly as described, which I'm finding hard to believe. Handling this 1 meter strip is like handling a 1 meter long strand of spaghetti. It's REALLY thin (4mm.) However, I'm having some issues with it that might impact people:

1. Most LED strips of 1 meter length are actually 2 1/2 meter lengths soldered together. In the case of these super thin ones, it's actually 3 1/3 meter lengths soldered together (each consisting of 66 LEDs.)

2. Related to #1, unlike most LED strips I've encountered, this really thin one doesn't have solder points every 1 or 2 LEDS. It only has solder points every 66 LEDs.

3. These things get much warmer than 5050 LED's.

My original plan (for a 100mm res) was to cut two lengths of 20 LED's, solder them together so the face opposite directions, and insert them into the CCFL tube. In relation to #1/#2, because this strip only has solder points every 66 LED's, I can't actually do that. I can cut wherever I want, but there's no way to make a length of 20 LED's that has solder points on both ends (one end to join with the other LED strip and one end for the wiring.)

On the other hand, this strip is so delicate that I think I can get away with just cutting a length of 40 LED's and folding it half. My concern with that is simply that the flexible PCB might not handle the 180 degree bend very well. Sadly, I don't see any alternative. Even if that works, it'll lead to a significant amount of unusable (wasted) LED's. These strips are expensive, so that's kind of painful.

(It's possible that the less dense 2020 strips have solder points more often. If so, they would probably be good for 200mm reservoir tubes and greater.)

Finally, for #3, the operating temperature of these LED's maxes at around 60C. Shoving two strips (or one strip doubled up) of these LED's into a tiny enclosed space (the CCFL tube) might cause them to overheat fairly quickly. I'm really not sure how I can test that. I don't think I'll be able to stick a thermistor inside the CCFL tube along with the doubled LED strip, and I don't own (or have access to) one of those fancy infrared temperature measuring gun things.

I'm wondering if I can slip a very thin piece of aluminum or copper between the doubled LED strips to draw some of the heat up to the metal plug of the CCFL tube. Any feedback on how I might solve this issue is welcome...




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the water will cool it probably plenty
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Storm Stryker Unknown Pioneer 5.1 
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Lil Tough Guy
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AMD FX-8350 Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  F3-2400C10D-16GTX  OCZ Agility 3 120GB  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
OCZ Agility 3 120GB  Seagate Barracuda 1TB  Segate Barracuda 3TB Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... 
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-ray Writer Swiftech H20-220 EDGE HD Liquid Cooling Kit Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech MCP-35X2 
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Swiftech MCP35X2 Heat Sink Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech Komodo 7970 
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Alphacool 240mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm UT60 FrozenQ PC Mods UV Meteor Light Limited Edition... 
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Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-R... Swiftech Komodo 7970 Windows 7 Windows 8  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  XFX FXTRISTAND Triple Display Monitor Stand  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 XFX pro 1250w black edition Caselabs MAGNUM M8 Case Razer Naga 
AudioAudioOther
Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
8350 batch 1229 pgn  Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z gigabyte 7770 OC gigabyte 7770 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
F3-2400C10D-16GTX OCZ agaility 3 120  OCZ Agility 3 120gb  Seagate 7200rpm 1tb 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Storm Stryker Unknown Pioneer 5.1 
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