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post #11 of 29
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First Test Build

Okay so apologies for no updates in nearly two weeks.
Progress has continued to be made and photo's taken but haven't been desperate to upload them because a) lack of interest suggests its at least unimportant to post quickly b) work hasn't been too bad but working across time zones including AUS has minimised time out of hours c) all that IRL stuff that generally gets in the way.

So here we go, last post I'd got all the main components, next step was to test they all work!



One of the things that really impressed me with the Caselabs cases is the ability to build outside and then slot the tech-station into place.



Its really nice to be fair, there's a backplate that comes off for fitting CPU backplates and goes back on to look good. The feet are brilliant and the whole thing is sturdy. Remembering back to how much of a pain in the arse it was getting stuff into the mountain mods case on my old computer, this is a pure godsend!

First job is getting the Rampage V Extreme motherboard in then.




I much prefer the Rampage black edition colour but the red theme is pretty smart. Originally the build was going to be black white and blue, but after much debate around how much of an issue having a ROG motherboard in red would be its all changed to the red white and black theme. I'd considered painting the board following linus' attempt but wasn't impressed with the output and although I thought it would be possible to do a better job, I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Also considered the deluxe which has a much better colour scheme but the rampage simply is 'the' gaming motherboard so meh, that's the way I went.



As always you get a lot in the box, it would be nice to see in particular the ROG equipment to be the first to start providing drivers and software on a memory stick or such - because generally I'd say their market will consider DVD's to be a few years out of date now and a very low priority for including in a build; its no issue and in fairness getting the latest releases from the web is most likely the way most people go anyway.




The motherboard fitted in reletively easily, theres a fair spring to the I/O shield so youve got to put some lateral pressure on as usual, possibly a little more than normal but those connections!




Thats the 5930k in. And the point I realised I'd made a mistake...

So last time I bought a CPU you still got a bare basics Intel heatsink and fan, which was decent enough to potentially use but certainly just to boot up and test.

They don't any more. And in fairness as soon as I saw the size of the CPU box I was like 'oh yeah....balls'.

So this gets jumbled up a bit from here but tl;dr I still had that old heatsink from last time, it doesn't fit properly but with a bit of hacking you can get a heatsink and fan that keeps the CPU at around +20 ish degrees for low level tasks.

Be careful following anything I'm doing here with the CPU heatsink!!!! You could in theory fry your CPU!



Cant remember the socket for this, I want to say LG1337 but pretty sure that's just in my head because of 1337, maybe 1366 or something? Either way, it doesn't fit. But I cleaned it up and gave it a go.



This stuff is awesome, cant recommend the Arctic Clean remover and prep-per enough!



Cleaned it up like new....well minus the scratches thumb.gif





The worst thermal paste spot ever, it looks like a turd. But we aren't exactly going for 1 degree savings at the moment.



Meh, covers the centre spot, job done.



So naturally the fan cradle thing doesn't fit so I tried the heatsink without it. I wouldn't recommend it, could boot up and test everything but within about 30-45 seconds I was getting up to 60 degrees from an ambient of just below 20 and shut it off as a caution. And yeah, you definitely cant stand this upright biggrin.gif

I've just realised I haven't taken a photo of it but the solution was breaking off the logs of the cpu fan and sticking it back on top, doing that kept the temps around 40 degrees, which shows you how much work that fan is doing! I did this after the install before I installed windows to ensure it was able to deal with the install workload.



Not much to say about the RAM for the moment, its nice, well packaged and will be interesting pulling off the heatsinks to watercool them :S



The smallest, cutest warranty information I've seen.



Thats 32gb half populating the motherboard atm, dont know whether I'll have any need to increase that for a while.



That Vengeance logo does look absolutely crap like, so I'm glad I'm getting rid of that.



I love this thing like, one of the first thing I tested performance with....its fast!



Pretty easy to install though, just push in at an angle, push down gently and move the screw down to the smaller nut.



Pretty easy for a huge performance gain!

The CPU.



As mentioned before, I'm a big fan of the Corsair PSU's so far. 1200W did me well last time so that's what I've gone for this time, it should give me a decent amount of headroom as well and beyond that it was just a case of picking the highest efficiency I could afford.



Good kit of pieces as usual. The manual is fairly decent and its obviously pretty hard to get installation wrong.



Good amount of cables included but of course I'm redoing all this myself. The cables are all right, they're solid and black which is about standard I'd say but the plastic doest suggest premium or anything (of course you can pay shed-loads for the extra cables Corsair sell that are) and also the pinouts look freaking awful but I've got an image of that later!





The EVGA 980ti's are packaged pretty well and look great.



I have no idea what this is about....but it got cut off straight away and binned. rolleyes.gif



These guys are pretty big, not the biggest cards ive played with but certainly on the large size.



They don't fit quite to well with the Case Labs PCI-E backplates so you have to take the one below out as well and fit it back in once the card is installed.



SLI nom.



Last time I just put the two graphics cards together (i.e. the next main PCI slot down), this time i read the manual and followed what it recommended for dual SLI.




Started to connect up the cables, and oh dear god look at that pinout. PSU makers need to stop doing this, its absolutely horrific from looks if left as is, or customisation if you decide they did too bad a job.



Random point where I took a picture of the IO panel! Look at all those connections!




All connected up for the first boot! :S :S :S

Powered on.....Black Screen

Black Screen....

Fans Stop....

Fans Start....

Black Screen....

Fans Stop....

Fans Start....

Black Screen....



Whey! Yeah don't know what that was all about but for first boot up we didnt get to post any time fast, was probably less than 20 secs but felt like a month and with stuff turning off and on I thought it was stuck in a loop for a bit, but I left it a few seconds more and it posted eventually



And were in the BIOS, time to connect up the keyboard and mouse and get going.

I didnt take any pictures of the process for creating the windows 10 USB because its pretty well documented but heres a quick overview.

I bought a OEM DVD, I could not find the correct version online to download through the Windows USB creation tool that allowed me to use my key so I:

Formatted the USB to create a UEFI drive using that tool i cant remember starting with R and everyone know about anyway.
Copied the files from the Windows DVD to the formatted USB.
Plugged it in.

Aye pretty straight forward.



And the result was windows set up! Again I'm not going through that because....snore.



But theres Windows Yey!



Oh and there's a quick test of the M.2 speeds biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

More stuff to follow!
post #12 of 29
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Keeping Stuff Ticking Over

Been having lots of delivery issues from key people which is holding this back but in the meantime hes some bits I've done to keep it ticking over.




As stated on the website the Case Labs 560 Radiator mounts dont fit into the top of the STH10 without modification.

Now as much as I am very impressed with Case Labs from what I've seen with this product....thats frankly not good enough at all. Theres no reason why the top compartment couldnt have been very slightly larger to fit everything in, and/or the mount itself only doesnt fit due to a very small conflict between to bits of metal. So if you want to fit a 580 mount in the top compartment this is what you need to do, just a small chunk taken out of the folder lip on the top corner of each mount, just above the screw thread.

And on the door side, you need to remove the screws holding up the square dividing metal, this will be able to be fixed back on with glue or just left off.

Of course I've yet to see if the radiator will fit in :S Will have problems if it doesnt....



A point for future builds: move round the front panels to how you want them before putting it together fully, this one in particular needs the same square panel mentioned above to be removed to move it, once you have built the case anyway.



Bought an aquaero 6 with sensor equipment etc, it arrived from Germany in a couple of days, quite impressive! Certainly showed up EK's distribution network!

Provisionally fitted the aquaero and ROG overclocking device thing in the front, not 100% the ROG device is staying but thats where it will be if it does.

A point on the Aquaero 6 - it did not conform to 5.25" bay standards, which is a bit of a joke. Aqua Computers were great and offered to send out replacement parts but it seems very much just like its been designed to be compliant but the manufacturing process isnt up to par so not sure whether there would be any advantage to that. Essentially the flaps on the side extend beyond the 5.25" form because of the radius of the bend, which is presumably being done by the same tool each time. I can understand why this would slip through, because its not the thing AC is focusing on but howay man thats a poor show. mad.gif



And that theres the first Vardar (White) installed in the front bay, my first EK order arrived full of fans! And damn theyre well built, gj EK, now just sort your crap distribution network that took ages and ended up locking my delivery in the delivery truck and loosing the keys before you even set off!





This is most of the goodies arrived now, and I've just been notified all my water cooling blocks are here so that's the job for the weekend - well including redoing the garden....oh yeah im also completely emptying my garden of everything down to the hardcore and starting again at the moment. The previous owners though bamboo and crap grass was a good idea....it is very much not, particularly for a relatively young guy with a job that isn't great for spare time.

Anyway, all that's left to arrive is the radiators, which I'm hoping will arrive over the next couple of days; Scan has apparently just got a massive delivery they're struggling to cope with. And the GPU backplates from EK which I'd hope are on their way but EK have been really crap with that - taking a week to realise they were out of stock, then a week to manufacture new ones.

So more should be coming soon guys!
post #13 of 29
Excellent! Keep it Rolling!

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Seagate 7200 Rpm Baracuda Crucial M500 512 SSD Crucial M500 480 SSD EK 480mm Coolstream XTX x 2 
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CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
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post #14 of 29
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Update to Come

The big bag of goddies from EK WB arrived last week so I'll be posting the update with the watercooling blocks + a bit more tackled this week. Still waiting on the radiators coming, and thats been a massive pain in the arse, spent most of my time reordering from different suppliers and them being out of stock, and now I've got two deliveries of the same stuff coming from a) scan and b) alphacool germany. Not sure how I'm going to resolve that one either as Alphacool literally have no means of contact what so ever; send a million emails before the order was despatched instructing them to cancel it and no response so far, phone number doesnt work either. Crap company to say the least mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

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SUBBED FOR Caselabs Big Brother and yes i see some awesome parts there this is going to be nice -- Yes Yes biggrin.gif With you... thumb.gif

Some times a little black polish can hide the scratch depending how deep.
Edited by BazG - 8/29/15 at 3:48am
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Quote:
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Some times a little black polish can hide the scratch depending how deep.

Im hoping so!

Reckon thats a great idea with the black polish, will definitely give it a go!
post #17 of 29
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Waterblock Time!

Long time coming on this update! Work picked up, fortunately I've not ended up on too many international trips but everyone else has so its been pretty busy.

But in short the build is done, it took quite a while with a huge amount of time spent on cable making, so I've left uploading the build log till the end. So yeah, back on it.


Oh and as a side, Ive began the project of putting my old build into what will become, but is a good few month off, a watercooled rackmount system. May or may not share that build too.




As a recap on components bought for watercooling and I think I missed a couple of things here's the full end of build list.



As a run down of things that changed and general pointers:

  • Why do you have to buy plexi terminals separate? That's silly EK!
  • If you're going to get an Aquaero just buy pumps from them rather than other providers, I'll go through the reasons for that later, and others have done so previously but it can cause you a major pain in the neck due to people not following PWM control standards and pumps will not work correctly out of the box. I do like EK's pump tops though.
  • Original plan was to get EK WB radiators but the sizes I wanted were not yet on the market, after much searching and deciding I was essentially limited in what I could source in the EU, black ice etc have some very poor stocking levels over here and there's not much good in the way of alternatives. Alphacool looked like a decent option and in fairness I cant fault them on being able to suck heat out of the loops. More to come later.
  • Original plan was to have larger reservoirs in, fortunately I had some full sized reservoirs that were miss bought for the same reason on a previous build, I tested the size and its not practical to fit anything bigger than a 250 with a pump below.
  • 5 Litres was enough with the system fully bled, not by much but one bottle would have done; kind of surprised by that.
  • 1 pipe wasn't quite enough from GPU to reservoir top so a G1/4 to G1/4 was needed to join two pipes together.





You've got to love EK's beautiful packaging, the thing screams premium before its even out of the box. Instructions were pretty spot on all the way through too, would definitely say there's been great improvements in the right direction over the last time I used them.



Taking off the backplates on the motherboard.



Still can't get over how small this little guy is! Some very nice work on the South bridge cooling from Asus though as a side note.



New plate on, not quite as cool looking.



First time to break out the heat gun and only going to go and heat up a few hundred pounds of RAM. gunner2.gif



I hadnt seen anyone remove the heatsink from the LPX so was mainly hoping it would work. I had to be a little more aggressive than others were in videos I watched with other sticks, the adhesive was pretty damn strong and I was a bit overworried about damaging the RAM with the heat gun.

All it involved though was very carefully heating up the whole stick a bit, and then focusing a bit of heat on one side at a time. I used sharp strong knife to gradually pry it open along the separation at the top and just slowly over time made the gap wider. Once it was wide enough I made sure I was levering one side of the shield against the other to slowly open it, and eventually very carefully leveraged with the knife as flat as possible against the chips themselves.

The key was just to go super slow!



All 4 done without any disaster! I'm a big fan of the black PCB's too.



Shields set aside for any future warranty issues.....if they'll take them back and not realise I opened them.



It was extremely easy adding the new heatsinks on, it was just important to make sure I had it the right way around.



Looking nice... I think I took all the stickers off the logo's......thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif



The monoblock was pretty simple to fit. Adding the waterblocks to the RAM was simple too, only difficulty was making sure the thermal paste was applied correctly and then the block didn't move too far off the original paste place while tightening.




Coming together nicely, and outside the case!



Removing the graphics card fan/case/stuff was as simple as usual, and instructions were very good from EK's side barring one exception...

Way more than enough thermal pads provided.



Main screws were self explanatory, however the secondary ones around the side had different lengths, I cant remember which one was the issue in the end, and it was essentially my fault for not being more careful, but I very easily overtightened a screw which then separated the screw nut from the waterblock. This meant I couldn't tighten any further and I couldn't unscrew it either. Little bit disappointed with whatever fixing mechanism was used in fairness on EK's part, and the instructions could have provided a warning on being supplied with similar but different screw lengths; either way, my fault though.



And yeah, why the hell does the plexi block come with a black plastic terminal, not really on IMO.



Easy to switch out with some additional money of course. And I knew this before I bought it all so atleast it was clear before purchase, just should come standard.



Going in very nicely, and coolant upwards thanks to the reverse atx.



Nice separation with spacing to see both.



At this point I took the opportunity for another test. A previous build had shorted with the backplates, I can see EK has improved with the backplate design since then and I knew a few washers would solve the problem with the old build but for fault finding purposes I thought it best to test without. Luckily on the previous situation despite causing a full short circuit the Corsair PSU didnt have any problems and didn't let me fry my GPU's either, one of a number of reasons why I only buy Corsair.

Next update coming soon!
post #18 of 29
Subbed! Looking good. I have my own STH10 build with similar hardware going (not going to link here since I don't want to hijack, but I'm sure you can find it easily, it's called "Nostromo"), and I think we could learn a lot from one anothers' progress!
post #19 of 29
Awesome work there. I had to check my system out that i was not missing any parts LOL biggrin.gif When i saw your pictures i thought who toke my mono block and ram blocks and mobo thumb.gif
They look SOOOO cool. Awesome buddy well done. thumb.gif
post #20 of 29
Not many ratx builds out there. Such sub, very amaze!
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