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Its not stealing anything, you are GIVING your data to them.

Its not like MS is going to start charging your CC or anything. If they did that they would be over as a company.

Lol. There's so little logic in that argument that I could mistake you for a toddler.


Tell me, how is it "giving" when 99% of (intelligible, able) people (think) they're turning it off? Pretty damn obvious to me they DON'T want their data STOLEN if they even so much as attempt to look up how to "disable" the spyware. Good grief people get ahold of yourselves.
    
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I have a test laptop and can confirm these to work. Crazy would be someone fear mongering and not understanding that you have control over your new operating system.

People fear monger because they lack understanding. People using an OS mostly see it as a magical "black box" that lets them do things.
If you really wanted to I am sure you could block outgoing traffic on a network level if you so desired.
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Lol. There's so little logic in that argument that I could mistake you for a toddler.


Tell me, how is it "giving" when 99% of (intelligible, able) people (think) they're turning it off? Pretty damn obvious to me they DON'T want their data STOLEN if they even so much as attempt to look up how to "disable" the spyware. Good grief people get ahold of yourselves.

Because you agree to the ToS which states that they can do these things. You click "I Agree" and you have signed away your ability to whine.
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Because you agree to the ToS which states that they can do these things. You click "I Agree" and you have signed away your ability to whine.

Once again, it's pretty damn obvious to me that most people DON'T agree to the TOS even though they clicked "agree". If you fully agree to the TOS, you wouldn't be trying to disable the spyware to begin with, good grief, THINK A LITTLE BIT!
Edited by r0llinlacs - 10/25/15 at 11:48pm
    
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Once again, it's pretty damn obvious to me that most people DON'T agree to the TOS even though they clicked "agree". If you fully agree to the TOS you won't be trying to disable the spyware, good grief, THINK A LITTLE BIT!

YOU are responsible for reading the ToS for any service or product you use. I have no compassion for those too ignorant to even look at what they are agreeing to.

--in addition--

If you do not agree to the ToS, DO NOT USE THE SOFTWARE.
Edited by KarathKasun - 8/8/15 at 11:44am
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People fear monger because they lack understanding. People using an OS mostly see it as a magical "black box" that lets them do things.
If you really wanted to I am sure you could block outgoing traffic on a network level if you so desired.

I just posted the steps to secure Windows 10. That's enough information to end this thread. I've been reading the fear mongers continuing to keep this thread going. There's many different ways to secure Windows 10 on many different levels, but I posted the no brainer steps on how to do it. Buh bye...
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YOU are responsible for reading the ToS for any service or product you use. I have no compassion for those too ignorant to even look at what they are agreeing to.

How does that even counter my argument, let alone support yours? NO SS of course people are responsible for reading the TOS. Obviously my argument is people click "agree" even though they really don't agree which is evidenced by the masses of people trying to "turn off" the spyware EVEN THOUGH THEY AGREED TO THE TOS.
    
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How does that even counter my argument, let alone support yours? NO SS of course people are responsible for reading the TOS. Obviously my argument is people click "agree" even though they really don't agree which is evidenced by the masses of people trying to "turn off" the spyware EVEN THOUGH THEY AGREED TO THE TOS.

That is their problem then, isn't it?
They are trying to use the software outside of normal parameters, are they not?

So what EXACTLY is your argument? That people are stupid?
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That is their problem then, isn't it?
They are trying to use the software outside of normal parameters, are they not?

So what EXACTLY is your argument? That people are stupid?

That people don't agree to the TOS even if they use the software. Which means that people do not consent to MS stealing their data which you think is only being "given".
    
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That people don't agree to the TOS even if they use the software. Which means that people do not consent to MS stealing their data which you think is only being "given".

No, you misunderstand the legal situation here.

Clicking on "I agree" is a binding contract with MS. EVEN IF YOU DO NOT AGREE.

You can't have it both ways.
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