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Okay now Im still investigating the issue with my machine that it wont shutdown correctly, But now I have a new strange problem occuring..

After getting new ram (Kingston HyperX Savage 3000Mhz) I've noticed that after a while in gaming my sounds become distorted.. I exit the game and I start youtube for example.. everything sounds normal. Again I fire up Battlefield 4, play for 15min or so and notice I get distorted/crackling sounds.

I remember I had similar problems with my Crucial 2400mhz memory when trying to oc them and I just passed it with thinking that the ram just cant cope with faster speeds. Then I remembered that it was getting more and more noticeable when upping Vccio and SA voltages..

Now I went to bios and changed the vccio and sa voltage from auto to 1.200 both and Voila! now I get distorted and crackling sounds even in windows.. This happens with onboard sound or Sound blaster Z

Does someone know why is this?
Edited by elmonen - 10/23/15 at 2:38pm
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post #1722 of 5773
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Originally Posted by ASUS-SE View Post

Next round of UEFI updates is under validation. ETA = 1~2 weeks.

Good news. Thanks for the update.
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Hello

Below are some screenshots I saved while testing. First one is with default UEFI settings and LLC set to level 5. Windows power plan set to balanced using Prme95 small FFTs. The second pic is using the same settings except CPU voltage set to Adaptive with 1.405V and multiplier at 46x. Third screenshot is the overclock result with the first set of waveforms overlaid. Adaptive mode follows Intel's default rules completely.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)







Thanks Praz - 3 "right -clickers" for sure. Virtually identical ramps at stock and 4.6GHz is amazing (and welcome!)
Now I just need to make sure the captions as I have them are right - lol. I've been running adaptive (on bios 0007) for all OCs (45-48) and the voltage measured by a DMM has been spot on. thumb.gif
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post #1724 of 5773
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Anyone here still getting long POST time with the z170 Deluxe? I'm on 1101 and it takes about 19 seconds before I see the Asus logo. It seems to be unaffected by CPU/RAM OC.

Thanks
Apologies for quoting my previous comment but is there anyone here who has problems with pre-POST time? As for me, it takes about 15-20 seconds before I see the Asus logo. This issue is completely unrelated to CPU/RAM OC or VCCIO/SA voltages. I also enabled MR fast boot but it didn't help at all.

Thanks
post #1725 of 5773
MR fast boot 'enable' fixed mine but I did not notice it worked until I did a cold start (powering on after a shut down).

Good luck.
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MR fast boot 'enable' fixed mine but I did not notice it worked until I did a cold start (powering on after a shut down).

Good luck.

I believe this skips memory training, so just make sure the ram is stable and if you see a failed post - there's been drift - reenable it.
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Sorry, what's memory training and where could I read about it? Thanks
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Sorry, what's memory training and where could I read about it? Thanks

DDR4 training is largely implemented by Intel. Intel has a NDA around what is done so it isn't well documented but the basic process seems to adjust voltages and timings for relative humidity and temperature based on some tests. The RAM can drift so this adjusts for that. The best discussion I saw was from this paper. http://teledynelecroy.com/doc/introduction-to-ddr4-design-and-test

However, exactly what Intel chose to implement and how well it was done etc. And if ASUS tweaked it is unknown. With ASROCK kicking their butt in max overclock competitions they may messed with it. If you look at the benchies on stock speeds ASUS is always a bit faster. They could in theory have tweaked this area a bit. Something has to explain all the 55 q codes and long boot times lol.
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Okay now Im still investigating the issue with my machine that it wont shutdown correctly, But now I have a new strange problem occuring..

After getting new ram (Kingston HyperX Savage 3000Mhz) I've noticed that after a while in gaming my sounds become distorted.. I exit the game and I start youtube for example.. everything sounds normal. Again I fire up Battlefield 4, play for 15min or so and notice I get distorted/crackling sounds.

I remember I had similar problems with my Crucial 2400mhz memory when trying to oc them and I just passed it with thinking that the ram just cant cope with faster speeds. Then I remembered that it was getting more and more noticeable when upping Vccio and SA voltages..

Now I went to bios and changed the vccio and sa voltage from auto to 1.200 both and Voila! now I get distorted and crackling sounds even in windows.. This happens with onboard sound or Sound blaster Z

Does someone know why is this?
Interesting.

I've been experiencing something vaguely similar. After several days uptime my mouseclicks would randomly start causing audio to distort and crackle but I have no clue where the problem originates from or why. Switching the mouse's USB port would temporarily fix it but only briefly...

I too have 3000mhz XMP rated RAM sticks, SBZ and I belive VCCIO and SA voltages on Auto currently.
    
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DDR4 training is largely implemented by Intel. Intel has a NDA around what is done so it isn't well documented but the basic process seems to adjust voltages and timings for relative humidity and temperature based on some tests. The RAM can drift so this adjusts for that. The best discussion I saw was from this paper. http://teledynelecroy.com/doc/introduction-to-ddr4-design-and-test

However, exactly what Intel chose to implement and how well it was done etc. And if ASUS tweaked it is unknown. With ASROCK kicking their butt in max overclock competitions they may messed with it. If you look at the benchies on stock speeds ASUS is always a bit faster. They could in theory have tweaked this area a bit. Something has to explain all the 55 q codes and long boot times lol.
Cheers mate, it was very useful. It's best to leave MR fast boot at auto then, I take it.
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