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Right, sorry. wink.gif

Hm, I have not much experience with Mini-ITX, but the fan inlet looks big. And the case allows for a 5.8 cm CPU cooler height. I would go all the way to achieve the best efficiency. Look at the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B. e.g. But, of course, with 65 W TDP the Noctua would be no bad choice, too (no experience with Cryorig).

Did you see that your case can house a regular length GPU of up to 33 cm?

PS: The Scythe BS2 has one more heatpipe and cools part of your board, too.

Yes i did but since i want a 3.5in drive i opted to go small with 970

i wont be oc and i would put a thicker 92mm fan on the noctua
Edited by TMatzelle60 - 1/20/16 at 11:12am
post #3182 of 5761
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Originally Posted by llantant View Post

Just figured I would check my setting and do some benches with my Hero.

Some screenies of how I have it set up.



What was being asserted in reviews and on forums was that you would have to sacrifice the first 2 Sata ports if you wanted to use an M.2 drive. Now we have the differentiation between Sata based M.2 drives and PCIe based M.2 drives (both the AHCI and NVMe SM951 are PCIe drives), it seems that the sacrifice is only needed for the Sata based drives. The way your system is configured seems to confirm this but I would be interested to see if the SM951 bench score is affected if there is high activity on the 840's.

If you have a GPT partition, there should be no need to engage the CSM module. You should be able to disable it, but in my case that leads to my UEFI capable 780 not initialising. Setting it to auto fixes this for me.
post #3183 of 5761
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Yes i did but since i want a 3.5in drive i opted to go small with 970

i wont be oc and i would put a thicker 92mm fan on the noctua

Sounds good to me!
post #3184 of 5761
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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

Was the all core enhancement enabled with the older bios, but disabled with the newer one?

After checking the setting in the bios, you can use Argus Monitor or HWInfo to see what clockspeed each of your cores are at in almost real time.
Hi Deders, seems Asus Multicore Enhancement was already enabled. Clockspeed was all cores max clocks at times, but it falls & rises as the cpu load for the 1st test is quite low according to readout on RealBench. I then put windows power plan to High Perf, and now there is much improvement to Image Editing scores.
But looking at my earlier 0802 stock results, screenshots show 800mhz clockspeed so they were at Balanced (yet scores were relatively much better).

A. 0802 stock clocks, stock ram abt 66s - Balanced
B. 0802 stock clocks, 3200 ram abt 65s - Balanced
C. 1402 4.7ghz, 3200 ram abt 68s - Balanced
D. 1402 4.7ghz, 3200 ram abt 61s - High Perf
E. 1402 4.8ghz, 3200 ram abt 67s - Balanced
F. 1402 4.8ghz, 3200 ram abt 60s - High Perf Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)





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Hi Deders, seems Asus Multicore Enhancement was already enabled. Clockspeed was all cores max clocks at times, but it falls & rises as the cpu load for the 1st test is quite low according to readout on RealBench. I then put windows power plan to High Perf, and now there is much improvement to Image Editing scores.
But looking at my earlier 0802 stock results, screenshots show 800mhz clockspeed so they were at Balanced (yet scores were relatively much better).

A. 0802 stock clocks, stock ram abt 66s - Balanced
B. 0802 stock clocks, 3200 ram abt 65s - Balanced
C. 1402 4.7ghz, 3200 ram abt 68s - Balanced
D. 1402 4.7ghz, 3200 ram abt 61s - High Perf
E. 1402 4.8ghz, 3200 ram abt 67s - Balanced
F. 1402 4.8ghz, 3200 ram abt 60s - High Perf

Glad it's working better. How long ago did you do the 0802 benchmarks?

I find windows 10 has a habit of resetting lots of settings in itself and some programs if it thinks something is wrong somewhere. This can be triggered when experimenting with overclocks if the voltage isn't quite stable and the machine locks up or crashes. The power settings are amongst the ones that I've found have changed when this happens.
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Glad it's working better. How long ago did you do the 0802 benchmarks?

I find windows 10 has a habit of resetting lots of settings in itself and some programs if it thinks something is wrong somewhere. This can be triggered when experimenting with overclocks if the voltage isn't quite stable and the machine locks up or crashes. The power settings are amongst the ones that I've found have changed when this happens.
HI! The 0802 benchmarks were done just a day before I updated to 1402. I don't think I'd ever used the High Perf plan until now (0802 screenshots show clocks at 800mhz, power saving in effect). So it's possible that 0802 stock clocks & ram at High Perf could have even higher Image Edit scores than the ones I just did for 4.7/4.8.
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HI! The 0802 benchmarks were done just a day before I updated to 1402. I don't think I'd ever used the High Perf plan until now (0802 screenshots show clocks at 800mhz, power saving in effect). So it's possible that 0802 stock clocks & ram at High Perf could have even higher Image Edit scores than the ones I just did for 4.7/4.8.

I wonder if the microcode fix for the AVX bug or something else has affected this somehow. Who knows what gets tinkered with.
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What was being asserted in reviews and on forums was that you would have to sacrifice the first 2 Sata ports if you wanted to use an M.2 drive. Now we have the differentiation between Sata based M.2 drives and PCIe based M.2 drives (both the AHCI and NVMe SM951 are PCIe drives), it seems that the sacrifice is only needed for the Sata based drives. The way your system is configured seems to confirm this but I would be interested to see if the SM951 bench score is affected if there is high activity on the 840's.

If you have a GPT partition, there should be no need to engage the CSM module. You should be able to disable it, but in my case that leads to my UEFI capable 780 not initialising. Setting it to auto fixes this for me.

I ran two instances of AS SSD.




Same time.


Also, I have changed CSM to auto but now my post screen does not show on my monitor. I cannot see anything until im in windows. I have my monitor plugged in DVI-D and my downstairs TV plugged in via HDMI.

Why disable CSM again?
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I ran two instances of AS SSD.




Same time.


Also, I have changed CSM to auto but now my post screen does not show on my monitor. I cannot see anything until im in windows. I have my monitor plugged in DVI-D and my downstairs TV plugged in via HDMI.

Why disable CSM again?

Excellent that we have that confirmed.

CSM is only supposed to be necessary for non UFI/GPT installs, Disabling it should reduce boot time like you said. Did this happen last time you tried disabling it?

Does your post image appear on your TV?
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Excellent that we have that confirmed.

CSM is only supposed to be necessary for non UFI/GPT installs, Disabling it should reduce boot time like you said. Did this happen last time you tried disabling it?

Does your post image appear on your TV?

It does boot a little quicker. That also happened last time. I shall have a look tomorrow if post shows on the TV and report back. thumb.gif

Or maybe when my wife has gone to sleep biggrin.gif
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