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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

well, that's quite the tally of problems. First, what type of Raid? 2nd, I advise folks who are running raid for the OS drive to either use 1, 10 or 5. Raid 0 is fine for everything but the OS IMO.. unless you keep an up-to-date image for the raid to restore from. also, are WD green actually TLER enabled? (eg, and enterprise raid drive - if not dropped drives and therefore a broken array is a common problem). Lastly, memtest86 wwill not test stability, only if the sticks are broken really. Use HCI memtest to confirm stability while in the OS.

Adding to my tally of problems: I am quite annoyed at the moment. I have run HCI memtest overnight. But stupid me switched off the screen. So in the morning, the software is still running, but I can't see the results. Because I can't get back an image. This happens frequently with memtest86 and HCI memtest (but I had "no signal" problems during regular boot up as well, when I switched my display on too late).

How do I know that the software is still running? Both memtest never found an explicit error in hours over hours of testing. And when my rig hangs, I can't use the reset button (btw, what good is a reset button, if you can't use it for a reset?!). So this morning I could use the reset button. Therefore: the software was still running. Also the CPU fan still blew out warm air.

Why do I bother you with that? Because I have an ASUS board and an ASUS GPU. Thats why.

Sometimes I feel that gamers are nothing more than well-equipped beta testers, and not only for Intel.
post #3282 of 5743
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Does anyone know how to disable the Asus Bios update notification? I don't see it in startup or programs & files, and it's reminder is a little irritating as I don't plan on updating my Bios from what I've got now. Thanks!

You probably have ASUS EZ Update installed. Get rid of it.
post #3283 of 5743
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You probably have ASUS EZ Update installed. Get rid of it.

I'm sure I do have it installed, but unfortunately it's not listed anywhere for me to uninstall. I don't see it in programs & features, nor the list of installed components of AI suite (3), or as a program or service in startup (using task manager and autoruns). It's invisible.

I guess the only other way to get rid of it is to uninstall AI suite 3?

Cheers,
Sean.
post #3284 of 5743
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I'm sure I do have it installed, but unfortunately it's not listed anywhere for me to uninstall. I don't see it in programs & features, nor the list of installed components of AI suite (3), or as a program or service in startup (using task manager and autoruns). It's invisible.

I guess the only other way to get rid of it is to uninstall AI suite 3?

Cheers,
Sean.


- reinstall it, then uninstall it - did you upgrade vrom Win7/8?
- look for the binary and delete it from disk (better: rename it)
- look for autostarts (Win10: Task manager; better; Sysinternals autostart - that way you could get the path, too)
- open AI Suite, is there a tab for the EZ Update? There should be some settings.

Unless you plan on easy overclocking, I would suggest to remove all fancy software (e.g. AI Suite; but also RamCache, RamDisk etc. pp.).
Edited by pegnose - 1/24/16 at 1:29am
post #3285 of 5743
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Originally Posted by pegnose View Post

- reinstall it, then uninstall it - did you upgrade vrom Win7/8?
- look for the binary and delete it from disk (better: rename it)
- look for autostarts (Win10: Task manager; better; Sysinternals autostart - that way you could get the path, too)
- open AI Suite, is there a tab for the EZ Update? There should be some settings.

Unless you plan on easy overclocking, I would suggest to remove all fancy software (AI Suite, RamCache, RamDisk etc. pp.).

Thanks, I found it actually after cycling through the likely areas it was bout to turn up. I actually do all my overclocking through bios, but like the fan software that comes with AI suite so keep it around. It also seems to accurately display my CPU temp despite that functionality being disabled in other programs (while using the beta non-k overclocking bios).

Thanks for your help!

Sean.
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Adding to my tally of problems: I am quite annoyed at the moment. I have run HCI memtest overnight. But stupid me switched off the screen. So in the morning, the software is still running, but I can't see the results. Because I can't get back an image. This happens frequently with memtest86 and HCI memtest (but I had "no signal" problems during regular boot up as well, when I switched my display on too late).

How do I know that the software is still running? Both memtest never found an explicit error in hours over hours of testing. And when my rig hangs, I can't use the reset button (btw, what good is a reset button, if you can't use it for a reset?!). So this morning I could use the reset button. Therefore: the software was still running. Also the CPU fan still blew out warm air.

Why do I bother you with that? Because I have an ASUS board and an ASUS GPU. Thats why.

Sometimes I feel that gamers are nothing more than well-equipped beta testers, and not only for Intel.

even when the screen goes to saver,,, HCI is a significant enough load that it could take minutes to wake th escreen from sleep. It will go in stages: click/move mouse, wait... click and move again.. you should see the screen wake up in less than 5min.

You know now, set screensaver off and disable "sleep monitor" thumb.gif
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i7 5960X i7 6950X Asus Rampage V Extreme (STD and model-10) 2 GTX TitanX w/ EK Blocks & Backplates 
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Nvidia Tesla C-class 2 GTX Titan X Pascal (water cooled) GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 
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CoolingOSOSOS
Koolance EXC-800 Chiller Windows 10 x64  Windows 7 Pro Linux Mint 
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post #3287 of 5743
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

even when the screen goes to saver,,, HCI is a significant enough load that it could take minutes to wake th escreen from sleep. It will go in stages: click/move mouse, wait... click and move again.. you should see the screen wake up in less than 5min.

You know now, set screensaver off and disable "sleep monitor" thumb.gif

I will try that next time. BUT it wasn't under Windows. HCI memtest boot CD is DOS. There is no screensaver and no sleep option. So I highly doubt that waiting 5 min will do any good.
Edited by pegnose - 1/24/16 at 6:45am
post #3288 of 5743
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Adding to my tally of problems: I am quite annoyed at the moment. I have run HCI memtest overnight. But stupid me switched off the screen. So in the morning, the software is still running, but I can't see the results. Because I can't get back an image. This happens frequently with memtest86 and HCI memtest (but I had "no signal" problems during regular boot up as well, when I switched my display on too late).

How do I know that the software is still running? Both memtest never found an explicit error in hours over hours of testing. And when my rig hangs, I can't use the reset button (btw, what good is a reset button, if you can't use it for a reset?!). So this morning I could use the reset button. Therefore: the software was still running. Also the CPU fan still blew out warm air.

Why do I bother you with that? Because I have an ASUS board and an ASUS GPU. Thats why.

Sometimes I feel that gamers are nothing more than well-equipped beta testers, and not only for Intel.

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Originally Posted by pegnose View Post

I will try that next time. BUT it wasn't under Windows. HCI memtest boot CD is DOS. There is no screensaver and no sleep option. So I highly doubt that waiting 5 min will do any good.

Hello

Fully clear the CMOS and leave all settings at default. If the same issues reoccur while testing test one stick of memory at a time using the same memory slot for each test. If there are no issues found during the initial testing you need to sort out your overclock one component at a time.
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Hello

Fully clear the CMOS and leave all settings at default. If the same issues reoccur while testing test one stick of memory at a time using the same memory slot for each test. If there are no issues found during the initial testing you need to sort out your overclock one component at a time.

Sorry, but...
a) I fully cleared my CMOS a few days ago after updating the bios to 1402, and this issue was present before and after that.
b) I am done with memory testing. The issue is not present if I don't turn off the display. And it is present with two different software tools (HCI memtest and memtest86, each latest version) and two different displays.
I am really done with this, I am just informing you about it.
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So I had these hard locks, randomly it seems, but rather during gaming than idle. I remembered that it wasn't there in the beginning, when I hadn't used the ASM1061 for software raid1 of my data partition. So I moved the disks to the Intel controller and did a resync of the raid array. Because I could provoke a hard lock during resync on the ASM1061 before with load (within 2-5h), I retried this:



This is:
- 3 threads of Prime95 800k (memory) with 7 GB tested (not in-place)
- 3 threads of HCI memtest (remaining memory)
- Furmark with dynamic background, post processing, and 8x AA on 1280x720 windowed
- 1 thread CPU burner (comes with Furmark)
- and, of course, the raid resync

So I had high load on CPU (100%), Ram (93%), disk (30% read on disk 1; 60-70% write on disk 2 of the raid array). I could do this for 7h straight, until the resync was done. So I finally was happy: the problem was the darn ASM1061, I would be good now.

Then I rebooted, logged in, started Firefox (very quickly, before waiting until everything was up), and my system froze. Q-Code "04". Never had that one before.

If I could copy text from the manual, I would tell you that it says "PCH initialization before microcode loading". But that applies only during boot, no?

The good thing is: the array is resyncing again. So I can retry with load. Haha.


EDIT: After that I used the tool "wdidle3" to disable the intellipark feature of the 2 Sata HDDs. After that on the reboot at least one the the WD Green wouldn't start. You know the rhythmic "clack, clack"? I had that before with one drive and I had RMAed it because it threw a read error on SMART test. But this one is either ok or new.

Could this be PSU having not enough power to operate 2 WD Green 3TB? You see my other specs in my signature.
Edited by pegnose - 1/24/16 at 9:41am
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