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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

Page faults occur for various reasons, most not being ominous. However hard page faults all result in a hardware interrupt when a page is not located within RAM, at which point a page is coped from disk and the process is allowed to continue. Memory corruption can also be a culprit. Simply watching page fault count is likely to make one think there are issues when there are not. Opening applications, and general use will result in page faults occurring as information is swapped into memory.

Latencymon is really only worth taking note of if the system is showing symptons of high DPC latency.

Thanks, I'll have a look. Currently it is below 300 micro seconds.
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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

Page faults occur for various reasons, most not being ominous. However they all result in a hardware interrupt when a page is not located within RAM, at which point a page is coped from disk and the process is allowed to continue. Memory corruption can also be a culprit. Simply watching page fault count is likely to make one think there are issues when there are not. Opening applications, and general use will result in page faults occurring as information is swapped into memory.

Latencymon is really only worth taking note of if the system is showing symptons of high DPC latency.

Everything you say here is correct, but the difference in the amount of page faults occurring with the old version of windows compared to the new is like night and day. Exactly the same hardware settings, Ram was completely stable. In my case it was a software error that was resolved with the new version of 10.
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Originally Posted by pegnose View Post

Thanks, I'll have a look. Currently it is below 300 micro seconds.

That should be ok.
post #3324 of 5744
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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

What about Display settings/Power and sleep/Additional power settings/change plan settings (for current plan)/change advanced power settings/Hard Disk/Turn drives off after (mine says 20 mins, I just set it to 0)

Also what power profile is loaded by default? I find this can be different every time I re-install windows. It can also change if Windows detects a serious crash.

This time around it went for Balanced. I would often have to wait a few seconds for disks to power back up. Setting it to High Performance keeps them running all the time, despite the 20 mins being in that setting I just changed.

Sleep is off, display won't turn off, disks neither. PCIe power saving is off. CPU can vary between 5 and 100%, active cooling policy. It is based on the balanced profile.
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Have to go to sleep now. I'll report back tomorrow evening when I run LatencyMon on a freshly rebooted (and idled) system.

Thanks to you all, guys!!
post #3326 of 5744
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Originally Posted by pegnose View Post

Sleep is off, display won't turn off, disks neither. PCIe power saving is off. CPU can vary between 5 and 100%, active cooling policy. It is based on the balanced profile.

Try setting it to high performance., this seems to override some of the settings within the profile for me.
post #3327 of 5744
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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

Everything you say here is correct, but the difference in the amount of page faults occurring with the old version of windows compared to the new is like night and day. Exactly the same hardware settings, Ram was completely stable. In my case it was a software error that was resolved with the new version of 10.

Noted, but unless they are affecting operation, for example stuttering or audio drop outs - these things can be ignored.
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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

Noted, but unless they are affecting operation, for example stuttering or audio drop outs - these things can be ignored.

I was trying to ascertain the under the hood stability of that particular combination of windows/drivers/software. Whilst the page faults issue itself may not not be directly responsible, it could indicate that there are other issues caused by they way the windows 10 upgrade handles drivers (I had to re-install all my drivers after upgrading to reduce issues like latency and page fault frequency, even then things weren't satisfactory) or the particular version of windows in use.

I initially had to revert back from the November update because it crashed frequently. At the time I put this down to all the drivers having to go through a similar process that they did with the initial upgrade from 7 that left them not configured as correctly as they would have been (and now are) if they had been installed correctly. There were other signs that led me to believe this at the time but I can't recall them.

For me a fresh install of the latest version of windows is much cleaner and more stable with more features working as they should, than the result of going through all the different upgrades. It also has much much less page faults, and the resolve time is much much lower. I would have done this much sooner but all my attempts were met with Watchdog Timeout errors when installing my Wi-Fi or Asmedia drivers.

Edit: also the latency times and page resolve times would have affected real time audio situations with the kinds of figures I was getting.
Edited by Deders - 1/24/16 at 4:56pm
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I just flashed my Gene to the latest 1402 Bios and noticed an issue. I can't manually adjust the duty cycle of my CPU Fan header. Max, Medium and Min duty cycle all show 100 and if I put in a different number and press enter, it goes straight back to 100?
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Thanks, I will go through the list. The thing is: my system did not crash during my cluster-nonsense.

understood - but if I read correctly, the following post&boot was fouled. This is not uncommon with an unstable system.
x99
(28 items)
 
z170/z270
(27 items)
 
x79
(21 items)
 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7 5960X i7 6950X Asus Rampage V Extreme (STD and model-10) 2 GTX TitanX w/ EK Blocks & Backplates 
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Nvidia Tesla C-class 2 GTX Titan X Pascal (water cooled) GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Plextor 256GB M6e M.2 2x Plextor SSD 256 Raid 0 (Win 7) Samsung NVMe 950 Pro M.2 Plextor 810 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Aquacomputer GiGant 1680 (4x420) external Rad XSPC RX360 Koolance 380i Laing DDC-1T (2) 
CoolingOSOSOS
Koolance EXC-800 Chiller Windows 10 x64  Windows 7 Pro Linux Mint 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
ASUS Swift 1440P 144Hz Seiki 50" 4K monitor (720P-2160i) 240-30Hz Das Keyboard Model S Pro Corsair AX1500i 
CaseMouseAudioOther
MicroCool Banchetto 101 Steelseries Rival Ultimate Ears TF10 Koolance Pump/Fan Controller 
CPUCPUCPUMotherboard
i5 6600K i7 7700K i3 7350 ASUS Max iX APEX, Asrock MOCF, M8Impact 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsRAM
ASUS GTX 1080 Turbo ASUS GTX 960 Mini EVGA GTX 550Ti G.Skill 3600c15 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill 4266c19 Samsung SM951 WD VR 300 Intel 750 NVMe U.2 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Mushkin 512 Intel 600 NVMe Raid0 Plextor DVD ROM Custom Water (Koolance 380i / XSPC 360v2) 
CoolingOSOSOS
Corsair H80iV2 (M8I) Windows 10 Pro Window 7 Linux Mint 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Seiki 4K AOC 1080P Ducky Cherry Black Silverstone 500W SFX form factor/ Seasonic 760W 
CaseMouseAudio
Bench Logitech G700s Ultimate Ears TF10s 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4960X @ 4.7 Asus Rampage IV Black Edition R9 295x2 w/ Koolance Block G Skill 2400 c9 (@ 2133c8) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor 512 SSD VelociRaptor 600GB WD Black 2T 4 Terabyte NAS 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Asus BluRay R/W Lite On  AquaComputer 720XT Koolance 380i 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Liang DCC Aux Pump Win10x64 Samsung U28D590 4K/60 (primary) SteelSeries G6 (Cherry Red) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX1200 Sliverstone TJ09 G700 on-board 
Audio
Ultimate Ears TF10s 
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x99
(28 items)
 
z170/z270
(27 items)
 
x79
(21 items)
 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
i7 5960X i7 6950X Asus Rampage V Extreme (STD and model-10) 2 GTX TitanX w/ EK Blocks & Backplates 
GraphicsGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Nvidia Tesla C-class 2 GTX Titan X Pascal (water cooled) GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Plextor 256GB M6e M.2 2x Plextor SSD 256 Raid 0 (Win 7) Samsung NVMe 950 Pro M.2 Plextor 810 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Aquacomputer GiGant 1680 (4x420) external Rad XSPC RX360 Koolance 380i Laing DDC-1T (2) 
CoolingOSOSOS
Koolance EXC-800 Chiller Windows 10 x64  Windows 7 Pro Linux Mint 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
ASUS Swift 1440P 144Hz Seiki 50" 4K monitor (720P-2160i) 240-30Hz Das Keyboard Model S Pro Corsair AX1500i 
CaseMouseAudioOther
MicroCool Banchetto 101 Steelseries Rival Ultimate Ears TF10 Koolance Pump/Fan Controller 
CPUCPUCPUMotherboard
i5 6600K i7 7700K i3 7350 ASUS Max iX APEX, Asrock MOCF, M8Impact 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsRAM
ASUS GTX 1080 Turbo ASUS GTX 960 Mini EVGA GTX 550Ti G.Skill 3600c15 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill 4266c19 Samsung SM951 WD VR 300 Intel 750 NVMe U.2 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Mushkin 512 Intel 600 NVMe Raid0 Plextor DVD ROM Custom Water (Koolance 380i / XSPC 360v2) 
CoolingOSOSOS
Corsair H80iV2 (M8I) Windows 10 Pro Window 7 Linux Mint 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Seiki 4K AOC 1080P Ducky Cherry Black Silverstone 500W SFX form factor/ Seasonic 760W 
CaseMouseAudio
Bench Logitech G700s Ultimate Ears TF10s 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4960X @ 4.7 Asus Rampage IV Black Edition R9 295x2 w/ Koolance Block G Skill 2400 c9 (@ 2133c8) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Plextor 512 SSD VelociRaptor 600GB WD Black 2T 4 Terabyte NAS 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Asus BluRay R/W Lite On  AquaComputer 720XT Koolance 380i 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Liang DCC Aux Pump Win10x64 Samsung U28D590 4K/60 (primary) SteelSeries G6 (Cherry Red) 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX1200 Sliverstone TJ09 G700 on-board 
Audio
Ultimate Ears TF10s 
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